| |||
|
guy who owns blanchards stomping on a dog13,755 views |
| MichaelStipe - 2/26/09, 9:51 pm |
| cool guy |
| MichaelStipe - 2/26/09, 9:51 pm |
| there you go, weedeater8. |
| weedeater8 - 2/26/09, 9:53 pm |
| oh neat thanks, the internerd has a weird slang |
| nicholas3 - 2/26/09, 9:53 pm |
| ??????????? |
| MichaelStipe - 2/26/09, 9:54 pm |
| oh yeah his full name is john corey and this is at blanchards in allston hope you go to jail shithead |
| fre(drgonzo)dy - 2/26/09, 9:54 pm |
| what the fuck? whats the story with this? |
| MichaelStipe - 2/26/09, 9:54 pm |
| that dude jumped on a dog crate with a puppy in it until it broke also he owns blanchards |
| nicholas3 - 2/26/09, 9:55 pm |
| we cant see that in the vid. shiny puppy people laughing |
| MichaelStipe - 2/26/09, 9:56 pm |
| go to marty's he doesn't own jp blanch, just allston |
| fre(drgonzo)dy - 2/26/09, 9:57 pm |
| douchebag looks at the camera after doing it too. fuck this guy. |
| weedeater8 - 2/26/09, 9:58 pm |
| the mspca was called and they checked the dog, hes alright but the DOG has a restraining order on blanchard pretty much, shits still going down though |
| rooibus - 2/26/09, 9:59 pm |
| wow. |
| nicholas3 - 2/26/09, 10:00 pm |
| whoa i just realized it was at the beginning. fuck this guy |
| weedeater8 - 2/26/09, 10:01 pm |
| you are drunk |
| nicholas3 - 2/26/09, 10:02 pm |
| y tu? |
| AmmoniaBooking - 2/26/09, 10:03 pm |
| is sexy spraytan little girl still there? |
| benhenry - 2/26/09, 10:04 pm |
| he did it because his son kicked his Benz - the logical thing to do is go into your store and stomp
on your son's dog in front of your own camera system marty's is pretty awesome, really they have a sweet recession special going on also, this guy owns blanchard's allston, not jp blanchards |
| weedeater8 - 2/26/09, 10:06 pm |
| i dont know what that means, if you mean payton then yea kinda |
| AmmoniaBooking - 2/26/09, 10:07 pm |
| Payton is the sexy little spraytan girl nice to know. |
| dsensationale - 2/26/09, 10:18 pm |
| fuck this asshole. that looked like a beagle. |
| AmmoniaBooking - 2/26/09, 10:19 pm |
| i hate small dogs i'm buying blanchards only. |
| planncomm - 2/26/09, 10:27 pm |
| That really got my goat.Fuck that guy. |
| fre(drgonzo)dy - 2/26/09, 10:29 pm |
| i wonder why some dogs dont like men |
| weedeater8 - 2/26/09, 10:30 pm |
| yea a year old beagle, |
| Wes - 2/26/09, 10:33 pm |
| dudes son is weird though |
| nicholas3 - 2/26/09, 10:35 pm |
| i will never go to blanchards again |
| sirblamo - 2/26/09, 10:36 pm |
| fuck this dude |
| Shannon - 2/26/09, 10:47 pm |
| nicholas3 - 2:35 am (66.30.113.235) i will never go to blanchards again |
| fre(drgonzo)dy - 2/26/09, 10:48 pm |
| i never went there anyway so i can't really boycott |
| Huts - 2/26/09, 10:49 pm |
| this makes me feel nauseous. mostly because if he can do something like that in a blind rage to an animal, who knows what the fuck could happen if he lost it again. |
| Shannon - 2/26/09, 10:50 pm |
| I would on occasion I go to allston wine and spirits usually. That just made me as sad as when i saw the burnt koloa bears :( |
| lint - 2/26/09, 11:04 pm |
| what a nutcase |
| JimmyFlynn - 2/26/09, 11:11 pm |
| has this subhuman been killed yet? |
| ahungbunny - 2/27/09, 3:17 am |
| there is something so perverse about cruelty to animals |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 3:26 am |
| Shannon - 2:47 am (146.115.27.99) nicholas3 - 2:35 am (66.30.113.235) i will never go to blanchards (in allston) again FUCK THAT DUDE |
| ryantheterrible - 2/27/09, 3:39 am |
| Crappy_Mason - 7:26 am (24.128.77.241) Shannon - 2:47 am (146.115.27.99) nicholas3 - 2:35 am (66.30.113.235) i will never go to blanchards (in allston) again FUCK THAT DUDE |
| the.rog - 2/27/09, 3:55 am |
| Wow. |
| AaronTheD - 2/27/09, 5:11 am |
| ugh this really blows. i like going into blanchards, the staff's always real nice to me, but i'm not giving this guy any more of my money |
| AmishUrbain - 2/27/09, 5:15 am |
| Where did this come from/how did you find this? |
| ryantheterrible - 2/27/09, 5:16 am |
| Marty's new ad campaign just their owner feeding a puppy saying "Marty's...We don't stomp dogs" |
| timberlinerecs - 2/27/09, 5:17 am |
| someone working there must have taken a surveillance camera file |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 5:19 am |
| yep |
| AaronTheD - 2/27/09, 5:19 am |
| someone should take a screen cap of the vid and make a bunch of flyers and throw them out in front of the store or something |
| sempreverde - 2/27/09, 5:22 am |
| will perhaps be the first lemmingtrail thread to officially be entered into evidence in a civil lawsuit |
| mikechumpchange - 2/27/09, 5:23 am |
| fuck this guy. I hope he goes to fucking jail |
| adamh - 2/27/09, 5:29 am |
| it seems unlikely he will go to jail as the dog is physically unhurt. boycotting his business is probably the best way to punish him. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 5:29 am |
| martys will now be getting my monies |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 5:33 am |
| i wonder if its worth starting a boycott list so he at least fucking notices considering how many people use that place |
| joelDupree - 2/27/09, 5:34 am |
| i've been wondering what to do with all of the beagle shit piling up in my backyard, now i think i have an idea. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 5:37 am |
| i bet the worst revenge would be sending this to peta |
| metacom - 2/27/09, 5:38 am |
| that would be kind of great, kind of terrible |
| drumPILE - 2/27/09, 5:40 am |
| i watched this and felt ill....and not a la the beastie boiys |
| appletree - 2/27/09, 5:43 am |
| you could always kidnap the beagle. L-O-L |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 5:43 am |
| his son kicked his fucking Benz ugh that video ruined my morning. though i am glad i saw it so i dont give that douche more of my money so he can go out and get another one. |
| appletree - 2/27/09, 5:44 am |
| (that was an inside joke btwn me and JD) |
| sempreverde - 2/27/09, 5:47 am |
| i wonder if this dude sent the footage to local news stations yet? |
| drumPILE - 2/27/09, 5:48 am |
| this guy should get fucking stomped....perhaps by something that is as big (to scale) as he is to that poor fucking dog |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 5:50 am |
| adamh - 9:29 am (207.180.130.224) it seems unlikely he will go to jail as the dog is physically unhurt. boycotting his business is probably the best way to punish him. does intent count? I think he should be reported anyway. Animal control will do an investigation. Get the heat on this fucker. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 5:51 am |
| they should def. get sent to the local stations |
| mexicangold - 2/27/09, 5:51 am |
| why god :( |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 5:52 am |
| i would destroy his car but then he might kill the dog |
| ManxomeFoe - 2/27/09, 5:53 am |
| wow. |
| xlifepartnersx - 2/27/09, 5:53 am |
| heyradio - 9:29 am (76.119.89.136) martys will now be getting my monies for what it's worth, it's not like the guy who owns marty's isn't a giant fucking asshole too, and has done far worse things that this, though maybe not to dogs. |
| BeesKnees - 2/27/09, 5:53 am |
| that Mercedes is going to get keyed is isn't it |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 5:54 am |
| I would seriously call animal control. I reported someone once and they were very quick to do an investigation and let me know how it all went. Which was a stark contrast to the SPCA who told me that the dog was registered, so why would someone be abusing it if they went through the trouble to register it (WTF?) |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 5:54 am |
| well i dont go to allston often. i suppose i should always go to that weird one where the guy with the squeaky voice works. he seems nice. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 5:56 am |
| who owns marty's? |
| joelDupree - 2/27/09, 5:57 am |
| in order to turn an inside joke into an outside joke you should all know that appletree used to kidnap beagles in her younger days. |
| waffles - 2/27/09, 5:57 am |
| FUCK that douche, i'll never shop there again. |
| timberlinerecs - 2/27/09, 5:57 am |
| What has Marty's dude done? |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 5:58 am |
| yeah i dont know what he did either.. |
| mauspad - 2/27/09, 6:00 am |
| sent in to universalhub |
| drumPILE - 2/27/09, 6:01 am |
| no one is perfect, but until we have the video tape to prove that, everyone appears perfect |
| habaday - 2/27/09, 6:01 am |
| Shady business practices at Marty's. I used to drive the van there for a bit, and always had some scary shit happen in Chinatown. Also, people working there used to have to go and wire money to vegas for him. No dog stomping though. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 6:02 am |
| http://www.blanchards.net/contact.htm oh look there is a suggestion box |
| AmmoniaBooking - 2/27/09, 6:03 am |
| CHINESE LIQUORS MUST BE BOOMING |
| timothy - 2/27/09, 6:04 am |
| AaronTheD - 9:19 am (216.163.216.2) someone should take a screen cap of the vid and make a bunch of flyers and throw them out in front of the store or something i like this idea |
| xlifepartnersx - 2/27/09, 6:04 am |
| haha, nothing i should say on a public forum i guess re: martys. whatever, it should probably come as no surprise that a lot of business owners are kind of assholes, especially in certain industries, and espeically the more successful ones. i mean, i once worked for an employer of a beloved local chain who fired one of their employees because he skipped out on his shift to help out with the hurricane katrina relief effort (this was not martys, just to be clear). |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 6:05 am |
| being a shitty boss is one thing but there's no video of that dude abusing puppies so... it is kind of irrelevant |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 6:06 am |
| I mean it just sucks because it is such a vague statement and there are many levels and interpretations of being an asshole. I mean it could mean anything from he sexually harasses people to like.. I don't know, is a dick in his general demeanor. Unless you give me a good reason not to go there other than "he is an asshole" I don't really see any reason not to. |
| xlifepartnersx - 2/27/09, 6:07 am |
| agreed michaelstipe, but it goes beyond being a shitty boss, but it's not something i'd want to have to try to substantiate in court, so.... |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 6:08 am |
| also i was thinking flyers with a url. id do this tonight but i am sick as hell and not leaving my house. |
| xlifepartnersx - 2/27/09, 6:10 am |
| no, feel free to go there heyradio, it's a good store with good selection, etc. all i'm saying is that the sad reality is that a lot of owners of small beloved successful businesses are, unfortunately, fucking assholes, and fortunately for the most part we don't get to see them in action or we might not be able to shop anywhere. |
| RyanMcGinty - 2/27/09, 6:10 am |
| whoa.yeah i agree, send this to peta. fight fire with fire. |
| timberlinerecs - 2/27/09, 6:13 am |
| <sarcasm>I'm shocked that a liquor store owner or a significant local chain would have
"shady" business practices.</sarcasm> But stomping on a beagle. No fucking dice. Beagles are super dumb and innocent dogs. They're like puppies forever. Not that it would be ok with any other breed, but damn, a beagle? |
| POB - 2/27/09, 6:13 am |
| AmmoniaBooking - 2:07 am (68.163.235.46) Payton is the sexy little spraytan girl nice to know. Ha, Robin, Payton is Mikee Crash's wife. How do you not know that? |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 6:32 am |
| I am sending this shit to the tab. |
| cm - 2/27/09, 6:32 am |
| animal control sounds like the best idea so far, since it seems pretty likely that the dog could be taken away, right? |
| matt - 2/27/09, 6:33 am |
| what the fuck |
| elizabeth - 2/27/09, 6:34 am |
| timberlinerecs - 10:13 am (128.103.189.82) <sarcasm>I'm shocked that a liquor store owner or a significant local chain would have "shady" business practices.</sarcasm> But stomping on a beagle. No fucking dice. Beagles are super dumb and innocent dogs. They're like puppies forever. Not that it would be ok with any other breed, but damn, a beagle? wow. i agree with you. seriously fucked. |
| cm - 2/27/09, 6:35 am |
| timberline is even finding it hard to be controversial regarding this, which means its pretty serious |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 6:36 am |
| Is it his son's dog though? or his? I wonder how old his son is? |
| sempreverde - 2/27/09, 6:38 am |
| is this actually the owner of the place? i have no idea what he looks like, so im presuming other people posting here recognize him. |
| josephk - 2/27/09, 6:40 am |
| jp blanchards is puppy safe. they give dogs biscuits. is this tourettes dude? |
| Fowler - 2/27/09, 6:40 am |
| downloaded the video. will repost it on youtube if it gets taken down. |
| Matthewoz - 2/27/09, 6:46 am |
| I believe it's the GM of the store. |
| POB - 2/27/09, 6:49 am |
| I just verified this with a friend, its all true. the manager of the store actually reported it. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 6:49 am |
| puppy safe =/= stomping on puppy cages when in a rage if it is indeed this persons own pet, it is not a shock they have dog biscuits offered at the store. he probably normally likes the dog. but if this is how he reacts at his own store to the dog when his stupid car gets kicked.. then.. well... also hopefully someone can confirm/deny who it is.. |
| davesheehan - 2/27/09, 6:52 am |
| Someone should find out and post the license plate # of this guys benz. |
| micro - 2/27/09, 6:53 am |
| AmmoniaBooking - 2:07 am (68.163.235.46) Payton is the sexy little spraytan girl nice to know. hey robin, Payton is my wife and has never had a spraytan...you must be thinking of someone else. it was the owner who stomped the cage after his son(who owns the dog) kicked his dad's benz |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 6:53 am |
| smash stock |
| exxsarahx - 2/27/09, 6:54 am |
| his son is late 20s early 30s i would think, and a giant weirdo. wow. i thought this dude was kind of a jerk when i worked there, but never though he would intentionally try to hurt an animal. that is terrible. Someone should send this to PETA |
| micro - 2/27/09, 6:54 am |
| and one of the managers reported it and released the tape. |
| mR. id - 2/27/09, 6:55 am |
| Fuck this piece of shit motherfucker. |
| davesheehan - 2/27/09, 6:56 am |
| davesheehan - 10:52 am (24.218.30.244) Someone should find out and post the license plate # of this guys benz. |
| Fowler - 2/27/09, 6:59 am |
| is this confirmed enough to post on ireport? |
| omar - 2/27/09, 7:07 am |
| fuck that puppy stomper. also, it has come to my attention that he's going to close sunshine market in order to expand both blanchards and harpers ferry. i love sunshine market. |
| waffles - 2/27/09, 7:09 am |
| YELP reviews? Weekly Digg? Metro article? etc. |
| tommyvon - 2/27/09, 7:09 am |
| i dont get it. the dog is still in the cage? how did he stomp on the dog? |
| Fowler - 2/27/09, 7:10 am |
| someone digg the youtube link asap. I'll redigg. |
| brohamster - 2/27/09, 7:12 am |
| Looks like he jumped on the top of the cage so that it collapsed on the dog. Quality fella. |
| xdementia - 2/27/09, 7:13 am |
| ok, I'm glad he only owns the Allston store. I'd hate to not be able to hit up any Blanchards in town. Needless to say I will not be going to the Allston Blanchards again, what a douche. |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 7:14 am |
| destroying this guys car via Molotov cocktail would be fun, but a more realistic way to fuck this dude is for everyone to link this youtube video on all of their social networking sites... facebook, twitter, etc. It will spead like wildfire for people in the area and the dude will be fucked. |
| josephk - 2/27/09, 7:14 am |
| this is allston blanchards. jp chardos is good to all. guys, remember allston? |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 7:15 am |
| would the globe or herald write about it? |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 7:16 am |
| omar - 11:07 am (192.250.112.200) fuck that puppy stomper. also, it has come to my attention that he's going to close sunshine market in order to expand both blanchards and harpers ferry. i love sunshine marke == he also owns harpers? |
| andeet - 2/27/09, 7:17 am |
| . |
| Fowler - 2/27/09, 7:19 am |
| story on cnn ireport, with a link to digg it |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/27/09, 7:21 am |
| Maybe if you report this guy to PETA they'll both die locked in combat and the world can go on a slightly better place. |
| omar - 2/27/09, 7:22 am |
| he owns the entire block. he also owns the building across the driveway enterance that used to have a 7-11 in it. |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 7:25 am |
| fox news and the herald would love this. send it their way. |
| tommyvon - 2/27/09, 7:26 am |
| this sounds like something fox25 news would be all over this. |
| neopolitan - 2/27/09, 7:27 am |
| how did michaelstipe, the singer of REM, learn about this? who leaked the video? |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 7:29 am |
| does Mike Beaudet still do the Fox investigative stuff? |
| marcel - 2/27/09, 7:29 am |
| re-tweeted and facebook'd this. i never use facebook status message |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 7:33 am |
| FOX25 News Tipline: (toll-free) 877-369-2563 Boston Herald: City Desk: 617-619-6461 Tips, comments: 617-619-6789 |
| marcel - 2/27/09, 7:34 am |
| this is going to trend on twitter i bet |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 7:35 am |
| http://twitter.com/fox25news |
| villon - 2/27/09, 7:35 am |
| seriously fucked. |
| farhad - 2/27/09, 7:53 am |
| this fucking sucks. i'm glad to see that people are spreading the word so that those of us who don't want our money going to this dude can stop shopping there. |
| paintedbird - 2/27/09, 7:55 am |
| dress up in beagle comstumes & stomp his car mr. furious style |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 7:56 am |
| god i love seeing assholes get theirs |
| andeet - 2/27/09, 7:57 am |
| yes farhad i feel that has to be my first reaction as well. i feel bad for any employees around this situation, assuming things are probably very tense there |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 7:59 am |
| ireport not available? |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 7:59 am |
| This dude absolutely doesn't own harpers. He's just the landlord and sunshine isn't cloing. |
| josephk - 2/27/09, 8:00 am |
| farhad - 11:53 am (209.6.158.97) this fucking sucks. i'm glad to see that people are spreading the word so that those of us who don't want our money going to this dude can stop shopping there. |
| thedeathofsid - 2/27/09, 8:05 am |
| FUCK THAT DUDE. I used to see that puppy in there all the time. This sucks, and I'm going to Marty's from now on. |
| Fowler - 2/27/09, 8:05 am |
| I got a message saying my ireport was being verified - which kind of sucks considering that we're trying to get the word out fast. |
| benhenry - 2/27/09, 8:06 am |
| MARTY'S |
| brendan - 2/27/09, 8:07 am |
| what a douchebag. |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 8:13 am |
| He also doesn't own the whole block. Just Bravo to Blanchard's and only owns Blanchard's as a business. He owns the building liquor land used to be in in Roxbury and some other shit. |
| Dustin - 2/27/09, 8:18 am |
| Wow, fuck that guy |
| jilldeathwish - 2/27/09, 8:44 am |
| oh my god what a douche!!! |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 8:45 am |
| i work at blanchards and got the video. wow this kinda blew up, that rules but im probably gonna get fired, no so rule some people have already quit becuase they dont want to work for John, also there is another part to the video showing the son kicking the benz, its kinda funny |
| exxsarahx - 2/27/09, 8:46 am |
| sucks that you might get fired, but you did the right thing. |
| vom - 2/27/09, 8:47 am |
| I am glad we can all put aside our differences in the face of puppy stomping and come together in
disgust. Fuck that guy. |
| lieber - 2/27/09, 8:47 am |
| uh, post video of the benz kicking! |
| appletree - 2/27/09, 8:48 am |
| I'm pretty sure that you could use this situation as just cause to get unemployment though |
| ryantheterrible - 2/27/09, 8:48 am |
| So who has been contacted thus far? |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 8:54 am |
| seriously call fox25, this will be all over the news |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 8:56 am |
| mspca, i think peta, nothing seemed to be happening so i posted it here |
| Fowler - 2/27/09, 8:57 am |
| i sent it along to a ton of blog aggregators/etc, cnn ireport (might have been taken down as a TOS violation because of the video of abuse), the fox news ureport thing (i know i know), and local channel/newspaper tiplines. |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 8:57 am |
| I sent the youtube link to animal control |
| FkrU - 2/27/09, 8:59 am |
| send this to PETA they'll burn this place down. |
| ryantheterrible - 2/27/09, 9:00 am |
| has anyone CALLED fox25? if no one has, when i get back from lunch i will call. |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 9:00 am |
| yea i got the tape, i had to sneak in his office and copy it and im pretty sure thats illegal, you think i can get fucked for this.? |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 9:01 am |
| no fox 25 |
| ryantheterrible - 2/27/09, 9:02 am |
| fucking call them! |
| ryantheterrible - 2/27/09, 9:03 am |
| man i would not have admitted to stealing anything on here. |
| wh - 2/27/09, 9:03 am |
| This is fucked up. I never go there anyways. But I hate him now. |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 9:04 am |
| shit |
| sugarbee - 2/27/09, 9:04 am |
| i don't go to blanchards anyway, but someone should organize a very vocal boycott to this place and make a very obvious motion of taking business elsewhere. that would be pretty great, so they can see how much people care about this, rather than just having it in the news and brushing it off. |
| josephk - 2/27/09, 9:04 am |
| i think you're doing the right thing, but in terms of bringing it public other than this board why
not fox25? i mean, vom - 12:47 pm (166.196.119.216) I am glad we can all put aside our differences in the face of puppy stomping and come together in disgust. |
| ryanz - 2/27/09, 9:04 am |
| i doubt payton has ever used a spray tan in her life but she did used to have blue dreads |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:04 am |
| I don't know if you can get fucked but I think many people would help you out if it became a problem. I mean I don't think it would be wise on his part to try to fuck you over it as it would just draw more attention to him. |
| ryanz - 2/27/09, 9:04 am |
| - supriya |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 9:06 am |
| osephk - 1:04 pm (76.119.14.140) i think you're doing the right thing, but in terms of bringing it public other than this board why not fox25? i mean, vom - 12:47 pm (166.196.119.216) I am glad we can all put aside our differences in the face of puppy stomping and come together in disgust. truth |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 9:09 am |
| the ireport link seems to be up now |
| Meencolleen - 2/27/09, 9:09 am |
| sugarbee - 1:04 pm (65.96.173.165) i don't go to blanchards anyway, but someone should organize a very vocal boycott to this place and make a very obvious motion of taking business elsewhere. that would be pretty great, so they can see how much people care about this, rather than just having it in the news and brushing it off. Agreed! |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 9:10 am |
| oh shit, send this to consumerist! |
| rachel - 2/27/09, 9:11 am |
| has he mentioned anything to any of his workers or anything yet? what a gross douche. People that take out anger on creatures = biggest shitheads. Disgusting. |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 9:11 am |
| ooh, jonladen is totally right |
| tylerforpants - 2/27/09, 9:11 am |
| this was all a media hoax meant to coax humanity out of jimoo. |
| josephk - 2/27/09, 9:11 am |
| yelp.com |
| SugeNate - 2/27/09, 9:13 am |
| what about the contacting the police? i mean the guy didnt actually hurt the dog but i think jumping on a cage containing a dog until it collapses on said dog would be considered animal cruelty. fuck the news get this guy criminally charged. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:15 am |
| I mean I think animal control takes care of that sort of thing.. I don't think the police really care enough to criminally charge over what that dude did |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 9:15 am |
| i had a neighbor who went to jail for like, owning too many dogs. animal control will care. |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 9:16 am |
| yeah, animal control would be the ones to handle this. I sent them the video, but if someone in Boston called, that would probably help too. |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 9:16 am |
| Well he made a joke about the day after and banned the dog from the store. the mspca talked to him and he still acts like nothing happend. theres still an "investigation" going on. this all happend like 2 weeks ago |
| SugeNate - 2/27/09, 9:17 am |
| where is keegs when you need him? |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 9:18 am |
| in my experience animal control takes things way more seriously than the SPCA. |
| timberlinerecs - 2/27/09, 9:18 am |
| Problem with the film is you can't really see the dog getting crushed. I mean, you know the dog is in there, you know he collapses the cage, but you can't see the dog crushed/suffering. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:19 am |
| also i agree re: yelp.com write reviews! |
| waffles - 2/27/09, 9:22 am |
| so really... TONIGHT 7PM SIGNS + POSTERS + CHANTS! i'd stop by.... |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:23 am |
| yeah but intent counts doesnt it? also if the dog was hurt there may be witnesses.. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:26 am |
| someone make a flyer. i can help post it when i am not sick. i would just suck at making something eye catching.. |
| SugeNate - 2/27/09, 9:27 am |
| Raid - Hands Off The Animals Above The Law our discipline is reverence for life, through the virtue of innocence, and for this we've been branded as fascists. by the grace of justice evolves the Hardline of rights and if those rights are denied...then we will fight. our violence is a reaction. a last and only solution. there shall be no compromise, for tolerance is acceptance in our eyes. the law is up, our rule defined, so who's side are you on - their's or mine? your right ends where another begins and if you infringe upon the innocent, then your crime shall be avenged. ABOVE THE LAW (x3) that's why i'm above the law. i fight for an innocent's life as if it were my own. |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 9:27 am |
| man, of all the things to do on video... STOMPING ON A PUPPY. That's like, so out there mean that it sounds like a joke you would make about something outrageously mean. |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 9:28 am |
| people did see this happen, employes and customers, the dog pissed him self, he got pinned in the corner, but the dogs gonna scared and cower his whole life now |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 9:30 am |
| yeah it's not like there's a trap door in the fucking cage, this is video of a dude abusing a puppy, that's pretty much all they need to see i think |
| mustachedeath - 2/27/09, 9:31 am |
| i'm so shocked that someone who owns a liquor store is a shitty person. |
| jilldeathwish - 2/27/09, 9:33 am |
| does anyone know how to send the video in to the news?? |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:34 am |
| i yelped it |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 9:34 am |
| someone just call the fox 25 number up there and tell them what's up. they'll jump on this. i would but i am at work. |
| thedeathofsid - 2/27/09, 9:35 am |
| Link to it in an email: breakingnews@globe.com |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:36 am |
| i also sent to the allston/brighton tab but i am going to contact others |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 9:37 am |
| attn: Keegs |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 9:37 am |
| so if the boycott is sucessful or this is on the news and blanchards gets shut down are we all going to pitch in and find the people who work there new jobs? |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 9:39 am |
| you're right we should have all just looked the other way at this guy abusing an animal, i'm
sorry also beat women if you want it's cool |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:39 am |
| i left fox a msg. i also told them theyd probably be receiving calls from others cuz the story is spreading like "wild fire" |
| thedeathofsid - 2/27/09, 9:39 am |
| Uh, I don't think it's reasonable to expect Blanchard's to be shut down due to this. |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 9:41 am |
| I didn't say anything about looking the other way, daniel. I was talking about consequences of the action people are taking against him. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:41 am |
| uhh hopefully it can be replaced by something more awesome. this shithead does not deserve fancy cars. it sucks people might lose their jobs but i doubt this will cause the store to close. if it does, there will be enough time for people to find new jobs i would imagine.. which i would personally be doing right now if i had such a shitty boss. |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 9:42 am |
| Through the powers of idiotic sensationalism someone just equated a guy jumping on a dog cage with beating women |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 9:42 am |
| whatever allow bad things to happen and look the other way it's none of your business even |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 9:43 am |
| i guess the most you could get out of this is have him pay a fine and find the dog a new home. you guys need to chill. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:43 am |
| Who knows what the fuck else this asshole does? He clearly has anger problems. Taking your anger out on something weak and helpless is FUCKED. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 9:43 am |
| you are a noted shithead apologist anyway |
| digger - 2/27/09, 9:44 am |
| is the manager's name kerpal too soon? |
| waffles - 2/27/09, 9:45 am |
| i think it's pretty reasonable that this owner will see a pretty large cut in profits for the next couple of weeks while hopfully this public outcry causes customers to head to other locations to purchase beers |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 9:45 am |
| heyradio - 1:41 pm (76.119.89.136) uhh hopefully it can be replaced by something more awesome. this shithead does not deserve fancy cars. it sucks people might lose their jobs but i doubt this will cause the store to close. if it does, there will be enough time for people to find new jobs i would imagine.. which i would personally be doing right now if i had such a shitty boss. not everyone has a safety net. some poeple really need the job to pay their bills. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 9:46 am |
| yeah seriously guys don't rock the boat |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 9:46 am |
| i wonder if he actually jumped on the dog, it also looks like he could have just been stomping near him to scare him or something |
| thedeathofsid - 2/27/09, 9:46 am |
| Why on earth would anyone get fired over this (other than the owner)? |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 9:46 am |
| how the hell is this any of your business? what the hell are you talking about? I never said that it wasn't fucked up. i asked IF the boycott works will we be willing to help the arties affected who were not invovled get back on track? I think if you aren't willing to do that then you aren't ready to face the consequences of your reaction to this asshole's actions. maybe something else would be a better way of handling it other than reactionary shit. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 9:47 am |
| like either way he should be shot by a firing squad but the video seems inconclusive to me |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 9:47 am |
| what if his wife sees this, divorces him, he loses custody of his kids, develops a huge drug
problem, starts prostituting to support drug problem, contracts AIDS, spreads AIDS while
prostituting, finds out he has AIDS and buys guns and bombs and goes on a tristate killing spree
before turning the gun on himself! THINK OF THE CONSEQUENCES!! DO YOU WANT TO HELP SPREAD AIDS AND MURDER PEOPLE?! |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 9:47 am |
| i love dogs but be realistic. |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 9:47 am |
| sometimes you just gotta let puppy stompin go. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 9:48 am |
| when someone attacks a defenseless puppy in a cage it has to be someone's business because the puppy can't do anything. |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 9:48 am |
| WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE PUPPIES?!!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:48 am |
| What the fuck? I realize that. Regardless most of the money winds up in his pocket and I am not going to support a business with such a douchebag owner. Plus I heard rumours of Martys closing anyway. So what about those people? It's a choice. But I think there is nothing wrong with making people AWARE of what an asshole this guy is. |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 9:48 am |
| well, how is this not my business as well? |
| Shannon - 2/27/09, 9:49 am |
| waffles - 1:45 pm (216.183.191.98) i think it's pretty reasonable that this owner will see a pretty large cut in profits for the next couple of weeks while hopfully this public outcry causes customers to head to other locations to purchase beers it's sad but i don't think it will. whenever i go in there its jock kingdom lined out the door. Most of those kids don't even watch the news. I know I WILL NEVER GO IN THERE AGAIN. And that's all that matters to me.. Unless they let me adopt the puppy. If so- I will go in there so the dog can take a shit on his floor. |
| exxsarahx - 2/27/09, 9:49 am |
| what cripes?? he clearly is standing on the crate and jumps till is breaks. |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 9:49 am |
| what does marty's closing due to bad business practice have to do with this??? I didn't say look the other way! |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:50 am |
| He is stomping on top of the cage. He could have easily fallen and crushed the dog. His intent seemed clear. So regardless of whether the dog was hurt.. (And either way - he faced emotional shock as he pissed himself and was shaking) it should be his intent that matters. If someone tries to hit me and fails I'm not going to just brush it off. |
| mauspad - 2/27/09, 9:50 am |
| actually, i would be okay with mailing a box of dog shit to his address. |
| outrageous - 2/27/09, 9:50 am |
| i just want him to be publicly shamed and lose some business and that dog to be put in a good home or whatever. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 9:51 am |
| i keep watching the video and can't tell what is going on don't mind me |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:51 am |
| I wasnt talking to you, I was talking to Edzuky who seems to think blame should be put on me for wanting to put consumers in the know in case people lose their jobs over this. Which I don't think is going to happen. |
| pantrymouse - 2/27/09, 9:51 am |
| reposted on myspace (a page of reposts after mine) saw it on b9 and facebook already too fuck this animal abuser. hit him where it hurts. |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 9:52 am |
| outrageous - 1:50 pm (75.150.98.9) i just want him to be publicly shamed and lose some business and that dog to be put in a good home or whatever. exactly. if the investigation goes well he may also pay a fine. and get the dog a new home. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 9:52 am |
| oh fuck now i see, i didn't realize what was going on before that is so fucked SMASH STOCK |
| josephk - 2/27/09, 9:52 am |
| some of you people hate puppies i think. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:53 am |
| So is it his son or him that owns the dog? |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 9:54 am |
| thedeathofsid - 1:46 pm (168.122.108.87) Why on earth would anyone get fired over this (other than the owner)? you can't fire the owner, duh. what i'm asking is that IF people boycott this place sucessfully then the place will close and people lose their jobs, people who aren't the owner. does that make sense? and i'm saying that IF it does close will people who are directly responsible BESIDES the owner for getting the place closed be willing to help the people affected? I think that IF you are unwilling to deal with the consequences you have to think of a different way to exact revenge on this prick. UNLESS YOU DON'T CARE FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S JOBS AND WELL BEING. |
| XLIFEPARTNERSX - 2/27/09, 9:54 am |
| uh... isn't the dog the son's dog? and yeah, clearly smashing stock is a good idea. the owners are typically the ones who clean that stuff up, and then the distributors re-imburse the employees instead of the owner for some reason. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 9:55 am |
| weedeater8 - 12:45 pm (209.6.166.75) some people have already quit becuase they dont want to work for John, also there is another part to the video showing the son kicking the benz, its kinda funny post video so i can laugh and also so i can go kick his benz too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 9:55 am |
| and i'm also not saying that this WILL HAPPEN, just that if the business does get shut down, as you suggest. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:56 am |
| Even if it gets boycotted successfully, it will take many months. And if it closes down, something will replace it. Such is fucking life. It got leaked by an employer and people have already quit over this. Not to mention, a lot of people would probably be covered by unemployment. But if I worked for that dick I would start looking for a new job now. |
| swindle - 2/27/09, 9:56 am |
| glass etching cream. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 9:57 am |
| well, you've convinced me, i'm going to buy my liquor at blanchard's so i can put some money in the pocket of a man who abused a puppy. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:57 am |
| its like DONT BOYCOTT MCDONALDS PPL MIGHT LOSE JOBS! People can make their own decisions but they deserve to know what a shithead the owner is. |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 9:57 am |
| heyradio, not everyone can up and quit a dog over moral cunundrums |
| Shannon - 2/27/09, 9:58 am |
| I feel like he would drive this: IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:58 am |
| I know that.... I am just saying I WOULD LOOK FOR ANOTHER JOB, not quit. |
| FkrU - 2/27/09, 9:58 am |
| Wes - 1:42 pm (216.25.247.245) Through the powers of idiotic sensationalism someone just equated a guy jumping on a dog cage with beating women a bitch is a bitch |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 9:58 am |
| so much for what vom said |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 9:59 am |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 1:49 pm (209.104.248.253) what does marty's closing due to bad business practice have to do with this??? the dog stomper been trying to shut down martys for like 15 years, lowering prices and shit and a huge "keg war" has been going on. he won and martys couldnt afford to renew the lease, but somehow they did and are now staying open. the tables have turned. also can someone post all of the links this video has gotten to, ive seen the ireport, are there anymore |
| josephk - 2/27/09, 9:59 am |
| Sylvester - 1:57 pm (128.33.75.84) well, you've convinced me, i'm going to buy my liquor at blanchard's so i can put some money in the pocket of a man who abused a puppy. then go hang at denby? |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:00 am |
| i don't think the employees there are paid in a profit sharing agreement so they won't lose money from a boycott and if the dude has to sell his liquor store because no one goes in there someone will buy it and no one will lose their jobs and they will get unemployment if it closed anyway. |
| exxsarahx - 2/27/09, 10:00 am |
| i would drive that. |
| pantrymouse - 2/27/09, 10:00 am |
| thedeathofsid - 1:39 pm (168.122.108.87) Uh, I don't think it's reasonable to expect Blanchard's to be shut down due to this i also don't think that's what the goal of this thread is. ya'll are over reacting to think that peoples' jobs are at stake. dude's gonna lose some money, lose some face, and hopefully get in a lot of fucking trouble. |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 10:00 am |
| lol i wrote dog instead of job |
| XLIFEPARTNERSX - 2/27/09, 10:01 am |
| the video just showed up in my facebook feed. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 10:01 am |
| yeah a dude who beats a dog isn't capable of beating another person good deductive skills idiot |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 10:02 am |
| but who ever leaked the video will get fired...and thats me. im not to worried about it but i would like to avoid it |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 10:02 am |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 1:54 pm (209.104.248.253) you can't fire the owner, duh. what i'm asking is that IF people boycott this place sucessfully then the place will close and people lose their jobs, people who aren't the owner. does that make sense? and i'm saying that IF it does close will people who are directly responsible BESIDES the owner for getting the place closed be willing to help the people affected? I think that IF you are unwilling to deal with the consequences you have to think of a different way to exact revenge on this prick. UNLESS YOU DON'T CARE FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S JOBS AND WELL BEING. there is one person DIRECTLY responsible. if a community of people decided, based on that one person's actions, that they are going to stop supporting that business, it reflects on that one person's actions. He is the head of the company. It sucks that innocent people would be effected, but that is fucking business. if someone said hey dont go to blanchards, xxx liquor store has way better prices and stock, would you say, NO WE NEED TO SUPPORT BLANCHARDS, THERE ARE EMPLOYEES THERE THAT NEED THIS JOB. maybe you would. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:03 am |
| hitting something less powerful than you seems about the same as hitting someone less powerful than you but hey what do i know |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 10:03 am |
| yep |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:04 am |
| either way beating animals and women are both the province of weak pieces of shit who don't deserve to live |
| XLIFEPARTNERSX - 2/27/09, 10:04 am |
| anyways, i hope all these stores close anyways. bring back prohibition, already. oh and for the record, stomping dogs is pretty lame. i just think it sucks that some other giant fucking asshole is probably going to reap the benefit of whatever boycott / backlash occurs because of this. |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 10:04 am |
| yeah, ok i give up. sorry dudes i don't that trying to get the store closed is the right way to go. i think the idea of setting his car on fire is a much better one. but if you want to act outraged and do the laziest think and just tell the web that you aren't going to buy there anymore then go ahead. |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 10:04 am |
| also, if dude gets fired over this because he came forward and provided the video, hell yeah i would throw in some money to support him and i imagine many other people would be down as well. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:04 am |
| notice he didn't hit his son, he tried to kill his puppy. that is the action of the worst kind of shithead coward there is. |
| joshsmithboston - 2/27/09, 10:04 am |
| no way in this economy any liquor stores are going out of business.... this industry thrives in these hard economic times.... |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:05 am |
| but thanks for sticking up for shitheads as usual samuel |
| Shannon - 2/27/09, 10:05 am |
| exxsarahx - 2:00 pm (72.85.250.121) i would drive that. me too. but it was a reference to asshole in dazed and confused. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 10:05 am |
| i don't think a bunch of douchey kids in allston are going to care about this. they would lose not that much of their clientele if a boycott happened |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 10:05 am |
| blanchards wont go out of business, that prick has so much money. but hes gonna wonder how this shit got out. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 10:05 am |
| jonladen - 2:04 pm (216.54.132.251) also, if dude gets fired over this because he came forward and provided the video, hell yeah i would throw in some money to support him and i imagine many other people would be down as well. |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 10:06 am |
| sometimes i want to put some of you in cages and stomp right through them. but i'd never do that to a doggie. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 10:06 am |
| joshsmithboston - 2:04 pm (65.96.132.37) no way in this economy any liquor stores are going out of business.... this industry thrives in these hard economic times.... == actually beer is in a recession |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 10:06 am |
| who said the dudes not a shithead? JEEZ. what i was asking is how people deal with DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY OF ACTION, and not of why he is an asshole or if he is or whatnot. there are better MORE DIRECT ways besides a fucking boycott. |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 10:08 am |
| cripes - 2:05 pm (168.122.82.48) i don't think a bunch of douchey kids in allston are going to care about this. they would lose not that much of their clientele if a boycott happened this is the other end of the spectrum. it won't work. but IF IT DID no one want to be directly responsible. |
| josephk - 2/27/09, 10:08 am |
| i've always wondered how it is that people can be abusive shitheads and still have friends and stuff or people that support other aspects of their life and now i realize that some people are fucking idiots. sure dude. light his car on fire, you won't. lazy? should i jog to foxnews in dedham or powerwalk to the globe? |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 10:09 am |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2:06 pm (209.104.248.253) who said the dudes not a shithead? JEEZ. what i was asking is how people deal with DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY OF ACTION, and not of why he is an asshole or if he is or whatnot. there are better MORE DIRECT ways besides a fucking boycott. you havent suggest anything, you havent contributed anything. why dont you be MORE DIRECT and fucking be productive if you care this much? |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 10:10 am |
| he owns the place. he's just going to keep taking huge profit chunks of peoples money. its cool if other people want to shop there but i dont have an obligation to buy something that is going in his pocket. i also think people deserve to know. there are tons of other places to shop around there for beer, and if they do better with increased sales, they will start hiring more people. |
| pantrymouse - 2/27/09, 10:15 am |
| a poster on b9 got in touch with abc, and they're interested in doing a story... |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:15 am |
| exactly joe too many fucking spineless cowards out there afraid to have opinions about shitheads because it might inconvenience them |
| farhad - 2/27/09, 10:16 am |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2:04 pm (209.104.248.253) yeah, ok i give up. sorry dudes i don't that trying to get the store closed is the right way to go. i think the idea of setting his car on fire is a much better one. but if you want to act outraged and do the laziest think and just tell the web that you aren't going to buy there anymore then go ahead. hey man i 100% agree that you have a point about people potentially losing their jobs, but it's totally unfair for you to accuse people like me of being lazy and "acting" outraged. my only relationship to him is that of an occasional customer to his business, and as such the only recourse i have is to stop buying things from him. i am not going to vandalize this dude's car or whatever, because i think that kind of stuff is juvenile and counterproductive. if the actions of people like me put the allston blanchard's out of business, then obviously i am going to feel bad for the decent people who worked there. but i'm still not buying anything from a business run by a guy who--in a fit of juvenile rage--jumps up and down on a dog's cage until the cage collapses. i want nothing to do with that guy. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:17 am |
| yeah i think a boycott is a much more direct way to affect the owner of a business then posting on the internet about how a boycott won't work and you should just commit a felony or something if you really care. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:18 am |
| "he never kicked my puppy, he's probably ok" |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 10:18 am |
| i'll bet this dude voted mccain/palin |
| Marcel - 2/27/09, 10:18 am |
| comment on youtube to clear some things up... it wasnt the store owner... it was his piece of shit son (that happens to have tourrettes any confirmation on this? |
| mikechumpchange - 2/27/09, 10:18 am |
| "obelo was right" |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 10:19 am |
| so wcvb of boston just sent me an email, Blanchard's ... Blanchard's Hi Eric, My name is Jim Haddadin and I'm at WCVB at in Boston. We got a link to your video and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind giving me some more information about it. Please contact me if you're available this afternoon. Thanks very much, Jim Haddadin jhaddadin@hearst.com (781) 433-4349 and also i think theres a narc sending me emails |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 10:20 am |
| haha, you shouldn't have posted your name if you wanted to have any hope of them not finding out who posted the video to youtube. oh well! |
| farhad - 2/27/09, 10:21 am |
| heyradio - 2:05 pm (76.119.89.136) jonladen - 2:04 pm (216.54.132.251) also, if dude gets fired over this because he came forward and provided the video, hell yeah i would throw in some money to support him and i imagine many other people would be down as well. cosigned. and this is about a million times more likely than blanchard's going out of business, which seems pretty much impossible to me. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 10:22 am |
| weedeater you should take a couple kegs before you get canned and have a huge fuck that guy party. |
| exxsarahx - 2/27/09, 10:22 am |
| Marcel - 2:18 pm (72.244.4.145) comment on youtube to clear some things up... it wasnt the store owner... it was his piece of shit son (that happens to have tourrettes any confirmation on this? no if you look...the cage stomper (owner) is a different person than the guy taking the pup out on a leash after (son) |
| mauspad - 2/27/09, 10:22 am |
| Crappy_Mason - 2:22 pm (24.128.77.241) weedeater you should take a couple kegs before you get canned and have a huge fuck that guy party. |
| farhad - 2/27/09, 10:23 am |
| exxsarahx - 2:22 pm (72.85.250.121) no if you look...the cage stomper (owner) is a different person than the guy taking the pup out on a leash after (son) you can confirm this by using a super detective method that i devised for myself: looking at their pants. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 10:23 am |
| yeah also the person who hosted the video and responded. dude with leash = son cage stomper = owner |
| farhad - 2/27/09, 10:24 am |
| farhad - 2:23 pm (209.6.158.97) you can confirm this by using a super detective method that i devised for myself: looking at their pants. although if he changed pants to fool the camera then i am totally fucked. |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 10:25 am |
| farhad - 2:23 pm (209.6.158.97) exxsarahx - 2:22 pm (72.85.250.121) no if you look...the cage stomper (owner) is a different person than the guy taking the pup out on a leash after (son) you can confirm this by using a super detective method that i devised for myself: looking at their pants. a criminal genious always changes pants right after dog stomping. |
| brokenfuses - 2/27/09, 10:25 am |
| Crappy_Mason - 2:22 pm (24.128.77.241) weedeater you should take a couple kegs before you get canned and have a huge fuck that guy party. i dont know you guys but i would go to that |
| exxsarahx - 2/27/09, 10:26 am |
| this is not a thread for lols...but i did chuckle just now. |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 10:27 am |
| Crappy_Mason - 2:22 pm (24.128.77.241) weedeater you should take a couple kegs before you get canned and have a huge fuck that guy party. i thinkn jose meant to post this in voms porn thread. |
| brohamster - 2/27/09, 10:27 am |
| The shoes are different too! This is just like those brain teasers. |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 10:28 am |
| well his other shoes had dog crate juice all over them |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 10:29 am |
| lololol @ edzuky alsoooo hats off to the dude who went to see if the pup was alright right away. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:29 am |
| the guy stomping the dog is the owner of blanchards, john corey. the owner of the dog seen taking him away nonchalantly at the end of the video is his son. trey i think his name is. |
| walker - 2/27/09, 10:29 am |
| once this gets to the crazy dog activist people this dude is f'd. They love making abusers' lives miserable. |
| PARTICIPATOR - 2/27/09, 10:29 am |
| Everyone who drives a Benz is an asshole. It's a fact. |
| pantrymouse - 2/27/09, 10:30 am |
| weedeater i hope it's ok i pm'd the b9er who's in touch with ABC yer s/n on here. |
| xlifepartnersx - 2/27/09, 10:30 am |
| On the outside, Idaville looked like an ordinary seaside town. It had playgrounds, banks, and
beautiful white beaches. It had churches, a synagogue, and two delicatessens. On the inside, however, Idaville was unlike any other town. No one, grown-up or child, got away with breaking the law! From coast to coast, police officers wondered. How did Idaville do it? What was the secret? The Idaville police station stood on Harding Street. But the real headquarters for the war on crime was a red brick house at 13 Rover Avenue. Here lived Mr. and Mrs. Brown and their only child, ten-year-old Encyclopedia, America's crime-buster in sneakers. |
| matthew - 2/27/09, 10:30 am |
| fuck this guy. i will not go back to blanchards, for sure. |
| hadtopwnya - 2/27/09, 10:31 am |
| If this goes to court, the defense will use this thread. They will claim witnesses' testimonies are
tainted somehow by reading all these unrelated comments about the store owner, focusing on the
falsehoods (that he owns Harpers, etc.) and extending to character assassinations (the war with
Marty's, etc.) and the borderline threats (molotov cocktails, etc). They will also emphasize that
the thread was started by a "fake" account, someone pretending to be a rock star, and was
frequented by a guy named "weedeater." You know, all playing on the fact that the jurors
probably won't understand the internet. (After this shit gets blown up on the news locally, who but
the most out-of-touch bluehairs could claim they have no knowledge for the case?) I speak from experience. Almost testified on some important shit I once witnessed. Unfortunately, my screen name was Cock Starved Mother On the Prowl and I started a fucking thread about it. |
| exxsarahx - 2/27/09, 10:31 am |
| i really wouldn't mind seeing crazy Peta protesters outside blanchards. i usually have the "oh geeze" attitude about that sort of thing, but back it in this instance. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 10:31 am |
| Crappy_Mason - 2:29 pm (24.128.77.241) hats off to the dude who went to see if the pup was alright right away. == yeah seriously. |
| steve_ca - 2/27/09, 10:32 am |
| Guys, relax. It's a performance piece. |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 10:32 am |
| heyradio - 2:31 pm (76.119.89.136) Crappy_Mason - 2:29 pm (24.128.77.241) hats off to the dude who went to see if the pup was alright right away. == yeah seriously. i think that was a woman. the one in blue? blond? |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:33 am |
| dude there's a video of him jumping on a puppy i think that's pretty sound despite the fact that people are talking about said video on the internet |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 10:34 am |
| its a guy with a hat.. |
| barker - 2/27/09, 10:38 am |
| wow |
| hadtopwnya - 2/27/09, 10:40 am |
| Sylvester - 2:33 pm (128.33.75.84) dude there's a video of him jumping on a puppy i think that's pretty sound despite the fact that people are talking about said video on the internet Dude, I've worked for criminal defense attorneys. You can be on tape cutting a guy up like Carvel, but if you have a witness that explains what's REALLY happening and you discredit the other witnesses, you can walk. It's amazing. |
| mustachedeath - 2/27/09, 10:41 am |
| you'll all go back to blanchards because the fact is that people who drink have no long term morals or integrity. |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 10:41 am |
| that dude was a dude, the dogs owner didnt even check if the dog was alright just got the leash and left |
| hadtopwnya - 2/27/09, 10:45 am |
| Hey, I don't really know anything, but it just struck me, especially since, uhhh, oh shit, yeah. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:45 am |
| well there's witnesses who haven't posted in or seen this thread so i don't see why it is relevant |
| hadtopwnya - 2/27/09, 10:52 am |
| It's relevant because by the time it gets to trial, most will have. 8 hours of this and we're already #2 in the search engines. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 10:54 am |
| well if for some reason this goes to a jury trial and he can afford a lawyer who can convince 12 people that a video of a guy jumping on a dog isn't a video of a guy jumping on a dog then more power to him i guess |
| pantrymouse - 2/27/09, 10:54 am |
| hadtopwnya - 2:45 pm (96.38.0.82) Hey, I don't really know anything, but it just struck me, especially since, uhhh, oh shit, yeah. omg google bombed |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 10:56 am |
| i heard he ate a bunch of twinkies beforehand and that's why he was so off his rocker |
| thathottness - 2/27/09, 11:01 am |
| Hey.... WCVB in Boston is looking for the person who shot the video so they can do a story on it. Anybody with info: (781) 433-4349 |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 11:02 am |
| wasnt it just a surveilance cam? |
| exxsarahx - 2/27/09, 11:02 am |
| its a surveillance camera video |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 11:02 am |
| or a really tall dude with steady hands |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 11:02 am |
| a robot named fritz shot it, good luck getting him to talk though, the blanchards guy, his owner, programmed him with a stop snitchin script. |
| thathottness - 2/27/09, 11:05 am |
| My bad, I meant the person who posted the video. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 11:06 am |
| sorry for being a sarcastic a hole. i just wanted to pretend such a robot existed. |
| Marcel - 2/27/09, 11:07 am |
| a friend of mine who does not post read an email i sent to him about this...he wrote back: ----------------------------------------------------------------- I called "Is this the dog stomping liquor store that is going out of business soon" Dude got pissed and hung up Called again talked to kid that posted it and he was like "we will take him down" as he is working |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 11:09 am |
| probably not the best to post that last part..... |
| baIIs - 2/27/09, 11:10 am |
| <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugu0Mi61rak&feature=related">I FOUND THE OTHER VIDEO<a/> |
| baIIs - 2/27/09, 11:10 am |
| I FOUND THE OTHER VIDEO |
| Marcel - 2/27/09, 11:10 am |
| because what i posted would really hold up anywhere |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 11:10 am |
| no no i mean it just increases his chances of being fired, but i think that may be sealed either way |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 11:11 am |
| Sylvester - 2:17 pm (128.33.75.84) yeah i think a boycott is a much more direct way to affect the owner of a business then posting on the internet about how a boycott won't work and you should just commit a felony or something if you really care. actually, i don't really care all that much about this. what i do care is about discourse about it, and about the moral implications that arise from the incident, and about asking people who do care about it to think about how they'd react. I can openly admit that I only find intrest in this because of the forum and the discussion surrounding it. I've never said I personally would do more or that I care more. I'm pretty sure that I will buy beer there sometime in the future which, apart from a very small number of people involved in this discussion, people will continue to do after the heat dies down and the only people that it will have any long term effect on will be the kid who posted it who'll get fired and if there's any sort of money lost because of the boycott the couple people who get layed off. The owner will continue to drive his Benz and have cash and be an asshole. Also, when have you ever been afraid of committing a felony? and why do you keep saying that this dude will have friends? are you talking about someone else? why do you keep bringing up beating women? mikechumpchange - 2:18 pm (64.40.237.22) "obelo was right" hey, dude, just because your posts about your gross bedtime talk disgust me doesn't make obleo right! ; ) and farhad, while i understand what your saying i am merely pointing out the fact that the initial thoughts to 'boycott' and get PETA involved may not be the best way of doing it. In my own philosophy the burning of the car makes more sense than anything else that I've heard here. I have no idea what would be better but I'm sure if people actually thought it out they could come to some sort of better way to directly affect this dude in a way that will really let him know what he did was fucked up. You can act like a personal decision to not shop there is sending that message but honestly I don't think it adds any sort of extra ooomph that the initial act had on the dog. According to what I'm reading from people's reactions, they feel this dude should feel worse than a dog. |
| JayCal - 2/27/09, 11:12 am |
| It must be your skin that I'm sinking in |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 11:14 am |
| I think you are underestimating how annoying PETA people can be. |
| walker - 2/27/09, 11:15 am |
| by the time ANY dog abuse case goes to trial there will be plenty of firey rhetoric flying around, usually that will include picketers at the hearings, it's not grounds for a mistrial or anything. If it's a surveillance camera there's a good chance the vid will be admissible, anyway, and that's more prejudicial than any bullshit that someone could spout on this board. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 11:16 am |
| whatever sammy keep fighting the good fight! |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 11:19 am |
| Sylvester - 2:03 pm (128.33.75.84) hitting something less powerful than you seems about the same as hitting someone less powerful than you but hey what do i know So lets equate swatting a fly to beating women then too. |
| hadtopwnya - 2/27/09, 11:22 am |
| i hope the judge rules in favor of the dog and gives him the store. great dabney coleman b-movie idea. |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 11:23 am |
| this is shaping up to be the trial of the century apparently. |
| mauspad - 2/27/09, 11:33 am |
| here we go MSPCA Investigating Dog Abuse YouTube Clip Investigators Pursue Incident At Liquor Store BOSTON -- The MSPCA is investigating a case of animal abuse that was allegedly captured on tape at an Allston liquor store. MSPCA confirmed that they are looking into a video clip posted on YouTube that appears to show a man inside Blanchard’s Liquors, on Harvard Avenue, jumping up and down on top of a dog cage. In the clip, the metal cage eventually crashes down onto a dog held inside the cage. It is unknown where the clip originated, but it appears to have been filmed by an in-store security camera. Authorities will investigate whether the dog sustained any injuries as a result of the incident. In the video, the animal appears alert and conscious after emerging from the smashed cage. |
| brohamster - 2/27/09, 11:34 am |
| Fox 25 Teaser Clip already? |
| mustachedeath - 2/27/09, 11:36 am |
| nothing will come of this legally. there are far worse cases of animal abuse where the animals are maimed or killed in fucked up brutal ways... and barely anything more than a slap on the wrist comes of it. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 11:37 am |
| oh man |
| mexicangold - 2/27/09, 11:38 am |
| SHIELD U EYES |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 11:38 am |
| yeah, but theres no footage! the footage is what makes this worse. |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 11:39 am |
| how mad must this dude have been to STOMP a PUPPY in front of cameras and customers. this is the part I really can't get over. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 11:39 am |
| maybe nothing will happen legally but i wouldn't mind if this guy's life is ruined. or at least is exposed for the piece of shit he is. |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 11:41 am |
| There's definitely a back story to this guy I ain't postin' |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 11:42 am |
| puppy stomping sounds like an anal cunt song, not a thing that happens in real life on camera |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 11:42 am |
| WES YOU TEASE |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 11:44 am |
| I'll tell you IRL |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 11:45 am |
| he's whitey bulger isnt he? |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 11:45 am |
| JUST TELL WES JUST DO IT |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 11:45 am |
| U WON'T |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 11:46 am |
| No he isn't, and no I won't. I am censoring myself. |
| mustachedeath - 2/27/09, 11:48 am |
| if the puppy wasn't actually injured in this, the only real repercussions will be boycotts. you have no idea of some of the fucked up pitbull abuse that has been documented by owners themselves that has resulted in little more than legal wrist slaps... then again they aren't cute beagle pups... |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 11:48 am |
| smash the state kick benz' everyday! Lets all meet on Beacon Hill at 5 pm! |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 11:51 am |
| wat irl story time plz otherwise I am going to singlehandedly keep blanchards in business using my credit card tonight in the booze section |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 11:51 am |
| BOOT BOIS SMASHING BENZ U WON'T |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 11:52 am |
| STOP THE CENSORSHIP WES |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 11:54 am |
| BACKSTREET BOIS WEAR BOOTS N BRACES KICK IN BENZ' WITH ANGRY FACES |
| jilldeathwish - 2/27/09, 11:54 am |
| Dear R.Schwarzkogler, You misused the word "reactionary". |
| JayCal - 2/27/09, 11:54 am |
| thread decelerated |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 11:55 am |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/27/09, 11:56 am |
| i probably did, lol. |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 11:57 am |
| the appropriate authorities have been contacted IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 11:58 am |
| Lot of talk and not a lot of action I feel like I'm at an anarchist rally. |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 11:58 am |
| I swear to god unless dirt is served I am going to go buy this guy an awesome bottle of scotch and a
cigar consider this reverse blackmail |
| jpk - 2/27/09, 11:59 am |
| Other than the obvious, is there a real way to prove that the dog was hurt? The video is from 3 weeks ago and the owner walked it away without noticing that it was injured. |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 12:00 pm |
| good point i guess he didn't do anything wrong |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 12:00 pm |
| jpk told me earlier that he hates puppies and is going to vote for Bobby Jindal in 2012 |
| Marcel - 2/27/09, 12:01 pm |
| worker from JP Blanchard's comments on YouTube: This is Abe from the Blanchards in Jamaica Plain. I am a dog owner myself. We are in no way affiliated with the store in Allston. All other Blanchards are independently owned and operated. We love dogs here. We offer treats to those with dogs. |
| JayCal - 2/27/09, 12:02 pm |
| haha oh man |
| jpk - 2/27/09, 12:02 pm |
| Sylvester - 4:00 pm (128.33.75.84) good point i guess he didn't do anything wrong I'm not defending this dude by any stretch. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 12:03 pm |
| internet |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 12:05 pm |
| I WANT TO SEE THE VIDEO OF THE BENZ BEING KICKED |
| waffles - 2/27/09, 12:05 pm |
| So if other Blanchards is posting...where's this douche posting his side of the story.... Well..you see my car is really nice...and well my son kicked it...so clearly i decided to act like a 4 year old and jump on a dog's cage. |
| SugeNate - 2/27/09, 12:06 pm |
| id like to see a video of the puppy stomper getting kicked. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 12:11 pm |
| yeah that too |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 12:11 pm |
| ya I actually asked about the Allston blanchard's in JP, I guess they have a bit of in-fighting
going on. even before this they didn't like each other. the belgian beer selection in allston is however spectacular and unless this Wes character starts talking, and quick, I'm afraid I'll have to bring some bidniss out that way >:| |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 12:12 pm |
| yeah the puppy stomper is estranged from his family i believe, they own the other blanchards. |
| netfuxor - 2/27/09, 12:14 pm |
| Please hurry and take this dude down because I got some inside information that he is on foot headed
towards the Boston Animal Shelter... AND HE IS PISSED! |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 12:17 pm |
| what is the beef between blanchard's allston and marty's, other than that they are in close proximity? i always went to blanchards when I lived there. better selection. |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 12:23 pm |
| who is offalforbes? narc? |
| metacom - 2/27/09, 12:24 pm |
| both offalforbes and netfuxor are super-noob |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 12:24 pm |
| yes ttly |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 12:25 pm |
| snitches get stiches |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 12:26 pm |
| yeah the people who joined today to support a puppy stomper and only have posted in this thread, nice try blanchard's |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 12:28 pm |
| the only way I will support blanchards is if this wes kid doesn't tell me juicy juicy blanchard's
gossip because I am at work and have drank too much coffee and need something to chuckle at for hte
rest of hte day also I'm here to bust you all for drugs, like in that movie that one time |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 12:30 pm |
| looks like someone is gunnin' for ya, wes |
| joelDupree - 2/27/09, 12:30 pm |
| any special deals on cases this weekend, offalforbes? |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 12:31 pm |
| "this wes kid" Who the fuck are you wise guy? Treat me with fucking respect. |
| lint - 2/27/09, 12:31 pm |
| 400! |
| brohamster - 2/27/09, 12:31 pm |
| Could just be a cat posting. |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 12:32 pm |
| you aren't my guy, buddy |
| peterparker - 2/27/09, 12:32 pm |
| I'm not vegetarian, so I don't see what the issue is. |
| SugeNate - 2/27/09, 12:32 pm |
| damnit does the thread have to turn violent 30 minutes before i leave work? |
| joelDupree - 2/27/09, 12:33 pm |
| nothing can harm me behind this iron ip address |
| jared - 2/27/09, 12:35 pm |
| Brohamster with the gem. |
| peterparker - 2/27/09, 12:36 pm |
| Is this the same board who loves Burritos and has a Burger Club? |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 12:39 pm |
| joelDupree - 4:33 pm (198.115.68.114) nothing can harm me behind this iron ip address haha |
| matt - 2/27/09, 12:39 pm |
| Gnossos |
| crowjane - 2/27/09, 12:40 pm |
| so, uh, who stomped the dog cage |
| ryoji - 2/27/09, 12:43 pm |
| now that the crowd has spoken, how do you all feel about animal welfare in slaughterhouses? if someone posted a video like this in the animal production line, would you boycott that meat producer? |
| bestdudeever - 2/27/09, 12:44 pm |
| Extremely shameful behavior. I hope the dog was not seriously hurt or will not suffer any behavioral
repercussions as a result. Community policing might not always be the most effective method in
dealing with these types of incidents, but we do have the ability to speak out and raise awareness
so that this will not happen again. At the very least, the perpetrator of this horrible act should issue a formal statement of apology and be required to seek some counseling for this cruel and irrational behavior. |
| Huts - 2/27/09, 12:45 pm |
| that depends-- how what is the cute-to-delicious ratio we are talking here? |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 12:46 pm |
| if the guy who stomped the dog actually ate it afterwards then i'd see no problem with this video. |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 12:48 pm |
| thread over |
| Sylvester - 2/27/09, 12:49 pm |
| wait meat comes from dead animals? fuck |
| amocro! - 2/27/09, 12:49 pm |
| : ( |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 12:49 pm |
| lol @ this whole thing, except the part where a dog got stomped |
| SkunkEye - 2/27/09, 12:51 pm |
| Yeah, that was the worst part. |
| hadtopwnya - 2/27/09, 12:54 pm |
| ryoji - 4:43 pm (24.34.22.173) now that the crowd has spoken, how do you all feel about animal welfare in slaughterhouses? if someone posted a video like this in the animal production line, would you boycott that meat producer? different animals have different status across cultures. dogs have a very high status in the US, so if they were kicking a dog at a meat processor, people would surely boycott that entity. |
| matt - 2/27/09, 12:57 pm |
| Thank you for contacting CNN. This email is to notify you that your news tip has been received and
will be reviewed in a timely manner. You will be contacted if the news tip is valid and we need
further information and verification. We appreciate your news tip and thank you for choosing CNN as your breaking news source. |
| mexicangold - 2/27/09, 12:57 pm |
| NO WAY SUDDUP |
| netfuxor - 2/27/09, 1:02 pm |
| Marty is sitting in his office right now with a smile on his face and a puppy in his lap. |
| ryoji - 2/27/09, 1:13 pm |
| I'm not asking the united states, I'm asking individual people who appear to be outraged about one dog versus an entire industry. |
| evanparker - 2/27/09, 1:16 pm |
| YOU KICK MY DOG |
| evanparker - 2/27/09, 1:19 pm |
| Daughter: You damn right call the police because we don't know what the hell- Kerpal: You do not tell me 'damn right'. You do not swear at me [under breath] I am going to kill you. Daughter: You're going to kill us!? Kerpal: No, not, I'm just kidding! |
| wwd - 2/27/09, 1:23 pm |
| If anyone wants to help get me blacked out, I'll run around blanchards yelling "who kicks a dog?" for 5+ hours |
| mexicangold - 2/27/09, 1:24 pm |
| ::raises hand:: |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 1:25 pm |
| I think that perhaps that is a conversation that you should bring up in another thread, but if I had a pet chicken, and some douchebag came and stomped on it's cage, I would be equally angry and worried about the welfare of the chicken. I don't look down at people that eat dogs or something if that is what you are asking. I try to eat as responsibly as one can regarding meat. It's like the question I asked in the veg thread - if you aren't vegan, arent you at least kind of a hypocrite? Well, for most people - the answer is yes. Anyway, I mostly think it's fucked that this guy cannot contain his anger so he takes it out on something weak and helpless, which I think is seperate from the meat industry entirely. It makes me also wonder how he treats other people around him... I mean, if he normally likes animals, then he really does have the mindset to probably bully a lot of people in his life. |
| sarahk - 2/27/09, 1:26 pm |
| this makes me sad |
| anonuser - 2/27/09, 1:34 pm |
| Someone should smash this fucking piece of shit and rub his face with a mixture of equal parts human and beagle shit. That might teach him a lesson or two. |
| evanparker - 2/27/09, 1:35 pm |
| wwd - 5:23 pm (146.115.121.48) If anyone wants to help get me blacked out, I'll run around blanchards yelling "who kicks a dog?" for 5+ hours i could totally imagine you doing this |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 1:38 pm |
| jeannecorey (58 minutes ago) Comment removed by author == WHAT WAS CENSORED? |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 1:44 pm |
| Was just there. No one is protesting. You guys suck. |
| jared - 2/27/09, 1:50 pm |
| Popular thread. |
| crowjane - 2/27/09, 1:51 pm |
| Wes hates dogs |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 1:52 pm |
| mark had the only good idea in this thread |
| ryantheterrible - 2/27/09, 1:52 pm |
| cripes - 5:52 pm (168.122.82.230) mark had the only good idea in this thread Topical reference too. |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 1:53 pm |
| Shut up crowjane. You are a fucking moron. |
| evanparker - 2/27/09, 1:54 pm |
| Wes - 5:44 pm (66.31.246.19) Was just there. No one is protesting. You guys suck. haha wes got pwned |
| farhad - 2/27/09, 1:54 pm |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 3:11 pm (209.104.248.253) and farhad, while i understand what your saying i am merely pointing out the fact that the initial thoughts to 'boycott' and get PETA involved may not be the best way of doing it. In my own philosophy the burning of the car makes more sense than anything else that I've heard here. I have no idea what would be better but I'm sure if people actually thought it out they could come to some sort of better way to directly affect this dude in a way that will really let him know what he did was fucked up. You can act like a personal decision to not shop there is sending that message but honestly I don't think it adds any sort of extra ooomph that the initial act had on the dog. According to what I'm reading from people's reactions, they feel this dude should feel worse than a dog. fair enough, and i'm not really looking for any oomph or even to send a personal message to this guy. i just want to take what i think are reasonable steps to make sure that he is not profiting from my occasional desire to drink booze while in allston. |
| crowjane - 2/27/09, 1:54 pm |
| :( |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 1:55 pm |
| I love dogs, but people are all worked up and no one seems to be doing much about it. |
| waffles - 2/27/09, 2:03 pm |
| markie ill pay for that |
| evanparker - 2/27/09, 2:03 pm |
| yeah i will too. i decided |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 2:07 pm |
| I think the most effective route is media pressure, and to see what effect that has had, we will have to wait till tomorrow. I personally called Fox and wrote to the Allston/Brighton tab. I know many other authorities and papers have been contacted. |
| Shannon - 2/27/09, 2:18 pm |
| mustachedeath - 3:36 pm (209.251.77.175) nothing will come of this legally. there are far worse cases of animal abuse where the animals are maimed or killed in fucked up brutal ways... and barely anything more than a slap on the wrist comes of it. man... stop being such a downer. Aren't you a dog lover? maybe I can't sence your internet sarcasm but.. if nothing comes legally a business witll change inoperative methods. Dude is having a mid life crisis taking it out on a dog. Bottom line. A good business is ran efficiently with a happy work environment. . |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 2:19 pm |
| *drinks his belgian ale* |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 2:20 pm |
| *shut up n00b* |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 2:20 pm |
| but srsly, marty's should have a sale this weekend |
| evanparker - 2/27/09, 2:21 pm |
| martys has the best sandwhiches in existance |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 2:22 pm |
| yeah they do. dinner for me tonight. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 2:22 pm |
| dude we aren't stupid, it's quite fucking obvious you joined the board today as someone from blanchards so you could pretend no one cares about this |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 2:22 pm |
| to offalforbes |
| Shannon - 2/27/09, 2:23 pm |
| *the business should wtf typo? |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 2:31 pm |
| OH NO I'VE BEEN OUTED it's true, blanchard's hired me to come on here to talk about marty's and the beef between the blanchard's family and then somehow piss you off by trying to learn the deep dark secret of the blanchard's owner that apparently wes knows. ...because it's good for business. |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 2:33 pm |
| the animal abuser demographic is a massive, untapped audience with every post this thread gets, a sale is made! KEEN BUSINESS STRATEGIES FOR EVERYDAY LIFE |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 2:47 pm |
| clearly you are a genius |
| wwd - 2/27/09, 2:55 pm |
| much props to sarah for doing something useful! |
| wh - 2/27/09, 3:03 pm |
| wwd - 6:55 pm (146.115.121.48) much props to sarah for doing something useful! |
| Quinn/Fatalist - 2/27/09, 3:04 pm |
| You can't hear it on the tape but that puppy was calling the owner a motherfucker. Puppy had it coming. |
| Jonahbloodbath - 2/27/09, 3:13 pm |
| A. this obviously sucks, and I think I'll be walking the extra block to marty's. B. If this bums you, out stop eating animals. |
| Jonahbloodbath - 2/27/09, 3:14 pm |
| huh.. weird comma placement on my part! |
| waffles - 2/27/09, 3:25 pm |
| jonah....WTF COMMA SHIT GOING ON AHHHH EYES BLEED! |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 3:26 pm |
| fyi cows are extremely perceptive and affectionate and smart SAYIN for the overly self righteous in here |
| Jonahbloodbath - 2/27/09, 3:26 pm |
| Whatever, at least I can pet dogs and not feel like a horrible blood mouthed monster |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 3:27 pm |
| oh whoa i didn't even read what jonah wrote YEAH |
| Quinn/Fatalist - 2/27/09, 3:28 pm |
| I wish I liked the taste of vegetables but I don't. Have tried to be veggie 3-4 times and have failed miserably. I only eat dumb birds now. |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 3:29 pm |
| ok fine I'll eat my dog if it'll make you stop calling me a hypocrite |
| wh - 2/27/09, 3:30 pm |
| this thread got accelerated. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 3:30 pm |
| i just think it is laughable and silly and fucking idiotic that some people in this thread are all
in a huff did you know that the meat you eat comes from animals that were once living and part of species that have been proverbially stomped on millions of times just so you can EAT SOMETHING? okay. well, then don't come in crying about this dude stomping on a dog cage. puppies and cows are both living creatures, you just don't eat dogs so your stupid minds are blocking out what you want to block out |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 3:30 pm |
| now that you mention it i guess eating chicken is the same as jumping on a puppy |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 3:31 pm |
| yeah as a matter of fact, it is the fucking same thing |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 3:31 pm |
| i take it back, i like this guy's style |
| wh - 2/27/09, 3:32 pm |
| As much as I hate the direction of this thread, I'm uh...with Cripes on this one...personally. |
| crowjane - 2/27/09, 3:33 pm |
| just think of all the poor dolphins getting caught in the tuna nets IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| Jonahbloodbath - 2/27/09, 3:34 pm |
| killing a chicken = killing a dog ...you know, more or less |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 3:42 pm |
| cripes - 7:30 pm (168.122.197.181) i just think it is laughable and silly and fucking idiotic that some people in this thread are all in a huff did you know that the meat you eat comes from animals that were once living and part of species that have been proverbially stomped on millions of times just so you can EAT SOMETHING? okay. well, then don't come in crying about this dude stomping on a dog cage. puppies and cows are both living creatures, you just don't eat dogs so your stupid minds are blocking out what you want to block out great fucking discourse! did you just get out of your middle school ethics class? |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 3:44 pm |
| ethics are ethics, regardless of age. maybe that's your problem. |
| farhad - 2/27/09, 3:45 pm |
| i eat a mostly vegetarian diet for ethical reasons, but i still think it's possible for an animal to
be killed without locking it in a cage and then jumping up and down on that cage in an infantile
rage. this mistreatment of animals isn't a binary thing where all injustices are equivalent, you
know? do i think that people who eat meat should know where that meat comes from? absolutely. do i think that people who eat meat need to be reminded of where that meat comes from every time they express concern for an animal? hardly. |
| drumPILE - 2/27/09, 3:47 pm |
| i cant belive this thread started today/// i referenced this and showed it to 3 people....and 500 posts later... ps denis leary! |
| WSJRaff - 2/27/09, 3:49 pm |
| farhad's got it. |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 3:51 pm |
| farhad - 7:45 pm (209.6.158.97) i eat a mostly vegetarian diet for ethical reasons, but i still think it's possible for an animal to be killed without locking it in a cage and then jumping up and down on that cage in an infantile rage. this mistreatment of animals isn't a binary thing where all injustices are equivalent, you know?farhad - 7:45 pm (209.6.158.97) i eat a mostly vegetarian diet for ethical reasons, but i still think it's possible for an animal to be killed without locking it in a cage and then jumping up and down on that cage in an infantile rage. this mistreatment of animals isn't a binary thing where all injustices are equivalent, you know?farhad - 7:45 pm (209.6.158.97) i eat a mostly vegetarian diet for ethical reasons, but i still think it's possible for an animal to be killed without locking it in a cage and then jumping up and down on that cage in an infantile rage. this mistreatment of animals isn't a binary thing where all injustices are equivalent, you know? a few more points: its a local business thats a part of the community. when videos of mistreatment of livestock appear, there is uproar. see pig kicking video from a few months ago. see farhad. sure, appreciate the point, but saying someone who eats meat isnt allowed to be angry at the mistreatment of animals is "fucking idiotic." |
| tylerforpants - 2/27/09, 3:51 pm |
| whoa, this thread exploded. |
| Jonahbloodbath - 2/27/09, 3:56 pm |
| People who eat factory farmed meat and are angry at the mistreatment of animals are definitely missing something. Sorry. |
| farhad - 2/27/09, 3:58 pm |
| if we're talking about combined feed operations, then i absolutely agree. but to be fair that's not a distinction that was made until just now. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:00 pm |
| of course everyone can and should be angry about this. i was merely commenting on those who were being just a little too self righteous and angry over this particular incident given the fact that they themselves are responsible not only for the harm but for the death of equally cute and cognitive creatures - and on a very very large scale. |
| danshea - 2/27/09, 4:01 pm |
| Jonahbloodbath - 7:56 pm (141.154.197.243) People who eat factory farmed meat and are angry at the mistreatment of animals are definitely missing something. Sorry. AGREED w/ vigor. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:01 pm |
| self righteousness is the most delicious part of a vegetarian diet |
| rachel - 2/27/09, 4:02 pm |
| be angry at people who have the need to take out their anger by injuring / torturing animals when
they feel upset. That's what needs to be changed. I don't think most people who kill animals for the food industry are doing it out of anger. It's their job. It may suck, but it's a very different situation. I am a vegetarian but do NOT believe this is the same thing, and that it's totally reasonable to be angry at this dude and not at factory workers. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:02 pm |
| also dogs eat meat so i guess we should just fucking kick the shit out of all of them |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:03 pm |
| yeah michaelstipe, that makes a whole lot of fucking sense. you're not stupid, but you're sure acting like a fucking moron right now. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:04 pm |
| like that wasn't even good humorous sarcasm someone give me something to work with |
| crowjane - 2/27/09, 4:05 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 4:05 pm |
| really no one was being self righteous in this thread until vegetarianism was brought up. |
| brokenfuses - 2/27/09, 4:05 pm |
| I eat meat I'm upset with this. It's too bad. Do I really have to start explaining myself? |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:06 pm |
| well dogs do eat meat, right? this dog eats meat that came from somewhere way shittier than the meat people eat comes from. so he is no innocent, and deserved what he got. that fucking hypocrite dog. |
| WSJRaff - 2/27/09, 4:07 pm |
| brokenfuses - 8:05 pm (24.60.201.14) I eat meat I'm upset with this. It's too bad. Do I really have to start explaining myself? I would say don't bother, nobody's ever going to admit that the other side has a good point. |
| danshea - 2/27/09, 4:07 pm |
| i'm not angry at factory workers. In fact, I'm not angry at anyone. But I do think that if more people gave a second to think about how some of the animals they eat are treated(ie. as jonah said, "factory farmed" animals), we might have more vegetarians on our hands. I mean, living in denial is just ONE way to DO IT. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:07 pm |
| you're acting like a 15 year old chowing down on a veggie delight at subway like you just discovered the secret of the fucking universe |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:08 pm |
| and you're acting like an ignorant, moody, obtuse, plain old stupid asshole i'd rather be a smart fifteen year old also subway smells like a garbage dump |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 4:10 pm |
| jonladen - 8:05 pm (70.112.205.153) really no one was being self righteous in this thread until vegetarianism was brought up. you can thank rioji for that. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:11 pm |
| why can dogs eat meat but not me we're both mammals |
| Quinn/Fatalist - 2/27/09, 4:12 pm |
| I think there is a big difference between having emotions towards a dog as opposed to every other living animal on this planet. Mankind and dogs were meant to be partners in life. Domestication is no accident. If cows were supposed to be pets one would go fetch a ball or do something besides eat. A chicken doesn't know/care who you are and think no more or less of you if you stomp on their cage or give them a lolipop. Same goes for turkeys. Dogs inherently are trustful of human beings. It's not something they learn. So watching someone stomp on a dog is seeing an age old trust be destroyed. Not much different than the way a child trusts the parent, a dog trusts man. |
| trill - 2/27/09, 4:12 pm |
| MichaelStipe - 8:11 pm (76.119.14.140) why can dogs eat meat but not me we're both mammals i dont agree with cripes at all...but really man? come on. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:13 pm |
| you guys tolerate abusive humans anyway, don't eat any meat and tolerate shitty people, you're totally the most righteous people on this earth |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:13 pm |
| COWS ARE DOMESTICATED SERIOUSLY? GO TO A FUCKING FARM AND PET A FUCKING COW AND YOU WILL REALIZE THAT THEY ARE JUST LOVABLE CUTE AFFECTIONATE SMART BIGGER PUPPIES WHATEVER KEEP RAPING THE EARTH AND HANGING UP SIGNS FOR ANIMAL RIGHTS I'M GOING TO GO DRINK SOME WHISKEY |
| trill - 2/27/09, 4:15 pm |
| we could talk about how many people the alcohol industry kills...but we better not.. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:15 pm |
| AHHHH SOMEONE CHANGE MY PASSWORD PLEASEEEEEE |
| crowjane - 2/27/09, 4:15 pm |
| i am drinking whiskey right now. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:16 pm |
| would you prefer the people who eat meat and are offended by this continue shopping at blanchards? |
| Jonahbloodbath - 2/27/09, 4:17 pm |
| hahah |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:17 pm |
| dude, you know what i said and you are purposely manipulating my words to make yourself look better,
which, if you were truly correct, you would not need to stoop so low to do. that said, i CLEARLY SAID that everyone should be angry about this, i just find it ridiculous that a person like you, who is directly responsible for killing animals every single fucking day, can dare ever really get truly angry about an animal rights issue? you're so fucking angry? stop fucking eating meat. A to B. simple. |
| ryoji - 2/27/09, 4:17 pm |
| Animals don't actually lock up other animals and make them live in their own shit. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:19 pm |
| and until you do stop eating meat, i will fucking laugh in the face of any meat eater who dares try
to preach about animal rights fucking hypocritical ASSHOLE |
| AmishUrbain - 2/27/09, 4:19 pm |
| I think Q/F has an interesting point here. I also think we can all agree that the population of the U.S. is way too high to consume (on many different levels) the way we do. Either quit having as many kids or live smaller. |
| Al - 2/27/09, 4:20 pm |
| Man's best friend is beautiful and affectionate, an ideal pet. Cats are the same, we make up their names and our love for them is real. Listen up, I gotta ask you, how can we be so cruel? You say you care, that's a lie. My true compassion is for all living things and not just the ones who are cute so I do what I can. I wanna save lives and I've got a plan. Under the table he'll eat your dinner like the veggies we can't stand. What kind of meal would he make? We don't want to ask it. Tradition is all that keeps him alive. Listen up, I gotta ask how can we be so cruel? You say you care, that's a lie. My true compassion is for all living things and not just the ones who are cute so I do what I can. I wanna save lives and I've got a plan. Why am I so upset. Don't even own a pet. I am not trying to press my will. I am not the first to say... THOU SHALT NOT KILL Full is all you want to feel. We eat to stay alive, but it's their lives we steal. I think we'd like to change, but most of us are stuck, that's why cats and dogs have ALL THE LUCK |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:20 pm |
| q/f doesn't have an interesting point because he was plain wrong because cows are in fact domesticated animals |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 4:20 pm |
| Blanchard's sells vegan booze. Blanchard's: your choice for the ethical alcoholic beverage. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW I'm off to make a pizza crust out of beef - yeah, fuck that whole wheat crust fad, it's all about WHOLE MEAT crust! layered in gooey cheese and pepperoni and sausage and hamburger and bacon OH MY washed down by a delicious cold beverage from BLANCHARD'S: Your one-stop alcohol shop! |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:21 pm |
| actually you criticized the "self righteous" in here by making an amazingly self righteous point. you aren't doing anything productive or changing anything. the person who got this video to the public eats meat i'm pretty sure and also is risking his job. so... are you going to laugh at him? |
| Al - 2/27/09, 4:22 pm |
| Too many puppies are being shot in the dark Too many puppies are trained not to bark At the sight of blood that must be spilled So that we may maintain our oil fields Too many puppies Too many puppies Too many puppies are taught to heel Too many puppies are trained to kill On the command of men wearing money belts That buy mistresses sleek animal pelts Too many puppies Too many puppies Too many puppies Too many puppies Too many puppies with guns in their hands Too many puppies in foreign lands Are dressed up sharp in suits of green And placed upon the war machine Too many puppies are just like me Too many puppies are afraid to see The visions of the past brought to life again Too many puppies Too many dead men |
| Quinn/Fatalist - 2/27/09, 4:23 pm |
| do⋅mes⋅ti⋅cate /dəˈmɛstɪˌkeɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [duh-mes-ti-keyt] Show IPA verb, -cat⋅ed, -cat⋅ing. –verb (used with object) 1. to convert (animals, plants, etc.) to domestic uses; tame. 2. to tame (an animal), esp. by generations of breeding, to live in close association with human beings as a pet or work animal and usually creating a dependency so that the animal loses its ability to live in the wild. So, are you telling me that cows were once wild, rampaging creatures that have been chilled out by a few fences farmers have put up? Or that a cow couldn't eat grass anywhere on this fucking planet without the help of humans? Anyone who hasn't lived in the country can't tell me that cows are like puppies. It's the most utterly ridiculous comparison I've ever heard. It's like comparing apples to Kraftwerk records. They are gigantic dumb animals and while I don't agree with factory farms and a life of pain, I totally believe these animals are on this Earth for no other reason than to make tasty hamburgers. |
| Al - 2/27/09, 4:23 pm |
| 'the views expressed in the lyrics posted do not necessarily reflect the viewpoints of its hypocritical poster... ' |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:24 pm |
| i don't get mad at meat eaters, i hardly ever discuss the issue, i dated a meat eater for a year and
a half. i get MAD when people like you think you are so fucking great for getting sad about a
puppy. IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW GET SAD ABOUT THAT IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| AmishUrbain - 2/27/09, 4:24 pm |
| q/f did screw up on the whole domestication thing but dogs do relate to humans in a way that few other animals do. That's all I'm saying. |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 4:25 pm |
| god fucking damnit now I'm hungry |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 4:26 pm |
| I have been attacked by both dogs and cows. Also cats. I was menaced by a goose. But I only ate a couple of them. |
| WSJRaff - 2/27/09, 4:26 pm |
| ...the horror. ...the horror. IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 4:28 pm |
| I'm eyein' on that beef liver somethin fierce, I may have to take a trip to th' sooper stop'nshop chicken livers are really the best because they're totally delicious and come in buckets, so when you cook them and eat them it's like consuming the souls of a hundred living creatures rather than just part of one really big creature |
| crowjane - 2/27/09, 4:29 pm |
| MENACED BY A GOOSE! |
| Al - 2/27/09, 4:29 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED -
CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| christopherlame - 2/27/09, 4:30 pm |
| i am with farhad, of course. i dunno, as a vegan i don't mind that some people eat meat and are upset about animal abuse. i think they see the abuse as a necessity (that i disagree with, whatever) that comes with the production of food, and this as just some dude attacking a dog for no reason. |
| WSJRaff - 2/27/09, 4:30 pm |
| ROOBY ROO RON'T RIKE RIS READ! |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:30 pm |
| when did anyone think they were so fucking great? i think i'm kind of an asshole but i would like to spread the word about this local business owner that stomped a puppy. basically you're reading things into this thread that aren't there and just came to remind us all that you're better than us and have something to get angry about. i just recently started eating meat again after not eating it for a year so it's not like i've never thought about the issue. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:31 pm |
| k sorry |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:32 pm |
| also i don't think those dudes are benz owners needlessly abusing a pet it looks like they are going to feed their families and shit which is pretty cool when you think about things in a non black/white manner |
| Al - 2/27/09, 4:32 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| WSJRaff - 2/27/09, 4:32 pm |
| this thread proves you're not Michael Stipe! the real Michael Stipe would weep if you put a hamburger in his face. |
| ryoji - 2/27/09, 4:33 pm |
| haha |
| WSJRaff - 2/27/09, 4:33 pm |
| and then he'd sing "The One I Love" as a eulogy to the fallen cow. |
| Al - 2/27/09, 4:33 pm |
| speaking of eating animals, is there anything more annoying right now than that filet o fish commercial for Mickey D's? With the singing mounted fish? |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:34 pm |
| fuck you got me there |
| WSJRaff - 2/27/09, 4:34 pm |
| Al - 8:33 pm (68.162.248.8) speaking of eating animals, is there anything more annoying right now than that filet o fish commercial for Mickey D's? With the singing mounted fish? Yes. try watching Lifetime for more than 5 minutes. |
| Al - 2/27/09, 4:34 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:35 pm |
| if only there was an animal rights issue that could unite people of all dietary persuasions like oh i don't know KICKING A FUCKING PUPPY |
| Quinn/Fatalist - 2/27/09, 4:35 pm |
| Al, what about Dastardly and Muttley? http://www.stripersonline.com/ubb547/image_uploads5/Fnmandotter.JPG Now there's a dog that deserved a stomping. |
| Al - 2/27/09, 4:36 pm |
| there was a girl I went to school with who people referred to as "Muttley." When I went to my reunion, she was there and I whispered in Ellen's ear "hey, it's Muttley!" |
| WSJRaff - 2/27/09, 4:37 pm |
| I wish I could do the Muttley laugh. Like... "J-Raff! Was that you?" Me: "ree hee hee hee hee" |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:37 pm |
| on a closing note may i just say i heard a song and i counted out loud the two-steps, the goose-steps back. back from square one, from where we'd just begun, and then it rang a bell-but is this kristallnacht or what the fuck is your plan? would you care to expand? and i don't deny the choice, but I defy you as the voice of anything i've stood for in these past 9 years, i've conquered the nurturing and found that anything worth conquering is powered, built and backed by fear, not by fact. and having said that... meat is still murder. dairy is still rape. and i'm still as stupid as anyone, but i know my mistakes. i have recognized one form of oppression, now i recognize the rest. and life's too short to make another's shorter. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:37 pm |
| lol@ me |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 4:37 pm |
| holy crap, I'm a member of stripersonline.com too! Can't wait for the fuckers to start running through the harbor this year! end of april, baby! |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 4:39 pm |
| did it really come as a shock to a lot of you that meat comes from animals(cute or not)? i mean growing up i saw my grandmother kill animals that only hours earlier the kids were playing with. they eat guinnie pigs in peru. all the kids would play with them for days and weeks while they were at the house. and then my grandmother would cook them for us. same with turkeys. you can obviously feel emotions for all animals. but some are food are some are pets. |
| wellthatwasfun - 2/27/09, 4:39 pm |
| I used to nanny for the family that owns Marty's. Good peoples. |
| WSJRaff - 2/27/09, 4:41 pm |
| this is one argument that will always always end in a stalemate. |
| Al - 2/27/09, 4:42 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO
VIEW ... with that, I'm off to the movies with the wife. No animal products will be consumed during the course of the evening |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:44 pm |
| i have recognized one form of oppression, now i recognize the rest. some of the biggest shitheads i've known are vegetarians and there's plenty of vegetarians that tolerate the abuse of other human beings so maybe when humans can show simple compassion to one another i'll give a fuck about chickens |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:45 pm |
| you're not bigger than this, not better. why can't you learn? |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:46 pm |
| the joy of picking up on subtleties |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:46 pm |
| clearly i was mocking myself along with everyone else with that one, MS |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:46 pm |
| and please don't remind me of what i missed last night, I'M ALREADY UPSET ENOUGH AS IT IS |
| ryoji - 2/27/09, 4:47 pm |
| there's going to be shitheads in every social context you can think of. I don't know a single vegetarian or vegan that thinks human suffering is okay, that's quite the anecdote on your end though. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:48 pm |
| i was mocking myself as well CHILL OUT TALI |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:50 pm |
| now i feel like a piece of shit for blowing up on the internet, to someone i don't even hate i'm an asshole as always |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 4:51 pm |
| you're 15, you'll grow out of it. eat a steak, your growing body needs the iron. |
| grandmapucker - 2/27/09, 4:51 pm |
| everyone seems to be missing the point that the geese are the real villains here |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:52 pm |
| you're not an asshole but you also aren't a better person than anyone else for not eating meat and anyone who thinks they are is going about it the wrong way |
| Wes - 2/27/09, 4:52 pm |
| I like cripes. Her passion is inspiring. I'm not sure why this discourse is now about animal rights and the horrors of meat eating. I was led to believe it was about the violent alienation of man's best friend by Blanchard's owner. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:53 pm |
| the haze clears from your eyes on a friday |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 4:53 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| Edzuky - 2/27/09, 4:54 pm |
| ryoji - 8:47 pm (24.34.22.173) there's going to be shitheads in every social context you can think of. I don't know a single vegetarian or vegan that thinks human suffering is okay, that's quite the anecdote on your end though. i know this comes up in every thread about this but .............HITLER |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 4:55 pm |
| i know there are shitheads everywhere but people acting like they figured out every system of oppression because they don't eat meat irritates me |
| amocro! - 2/27/09, 4:57 pm |
| HEY GUYS, Puppy stomping is pretty awful, whether or not you eat meat. |
| cripes - 2/27/09, 4:58 pm |
| MichaelStipe - 8:52 pm (76.119.14.140) you're not an asshole but you also aren't a better person than anyone else for not eating meat and anyone who thinks they are is going about it the wrong way no, i know that, and i definitely in no way think i'm better than other people just cos i don't eat meat. i just get excited over these types of things and also see in them opportunities to change peoples' minds, but i am clearly not the person for this task. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 4:59 pm |
| cripes - 8:17 pm (168.122.197.181) dude, you know what i said and you are purposely manipulating my words to make yourself look better, which, if you were truly correct, you would not need to stoop so low to do. that said, i CLEARLY SAID that everyone should be angry about this, i just find it ridiculous that a person like you, who is directly responsible for killing animals every single fucking day, can dare ever really get truly angry about an animal rights issue? you're so fucking angry? stop fucking eating meat. A to B. simple. === holy WOW cripes. jesus. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 5:00 pm |
| i take a nap and more hell happens. i tried to diffuse it and said it deserves its own thread. i fucking hate this shit. peacccccccccce fuckers. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 5:01 pm |
| If I don't let myself be happy now then when? |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 5:02 pm |
| Our weakness is the same, we need poison sometimes. |
| crowjane - 2/27/09, 5:02 pm |
| i typically don't beat dogs during Lent |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 5:04 pm |
| it is right to give them thanks and praise |
| JbM - 2/27/09, 5:12 pm |
| really fucked |
| RyanMcGinty - 2/27/09, 5:17 pm |
| i just rode by and there was a channel 5 news van parked across the street glad this is getting serious attention |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 5:21 pm |
| yesss |
| lint - 2/27/09, 5:22 pm |
| without this video and such great posting this would've been like the kitty genovese of animals in liquor stores |
| lint - 2/27/09, 5:24 pm |
| did we find out what happened to cause the son to kick the dad's benz yet? because we might on the news toniiiiiiiight |
| lint - 2/27/09, 5:25 pm |
| and i heard he was a republican! |
| Shannon - 2/27/09, 5:30 pm |
| Whoa really ryan? I'm psyched that we caused such a commotion. FUCK THAT DUDE X 10000000 |
| RyanMcGinty - 2/27/09, 5:32 pm |
| yeah it was one of the vans with the satellite thing on top, except it wasn't up yet. you should find out what time the news airs on ch. 5 and go there and get on camera! |
| lint - 2/27/09, 5:33 pm |
| 11-11:35 duh |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 5:33 pm |
| do not fuck with the internet |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 5:34 pm |
| that truck is going to have some interesting footage at that corner at 11pm on a friday |
| amocro! - 2/27/09, 5:35 pm |
| tune in. |
| RyanMcGinty - 2/27/09, 5:36 pm |
| hahahah true |
| Quinn/Fatalist - 2/27/09, 5:38 pm |
| Can someone make a gif of the stomp scene, please? |
| RyanMcGinty - 2/27/09, 5:40 pm |
| dude, it is hard enough to watch that once. please don't make a gif of it repeating |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 5:40 pm |
| srsly |
| patrickm - 2/27/09, 5:46 pm |
| what a fucking asshole. i never go to allston anyway. is JP really safe? not only do i like the blanchard's in jp, nick from the in/out works there so i like to buy my beers there. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 5:48 pm |
| yes this is definitely the only blanchards he owns |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 5:52 pm |
| ya he owns the blanchard's in JP, allston is not affiliated. plus the allston blanchard's has an awesome selection of belgian beers that isn't to be found anywhere else but Downtown in Somerville. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 5:54 pm |
| this offalforbes dude is amazing |
| elizabeth - 2/27/09, 6:00 pm |
| top |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 6:26 pm |
| if you like what you see here please contact Brafton via http://www.brafton.com/ We are content distributors for all totally awesome venues, plus give me money YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTS IN THIS VERY THREAD * Location: Boston, MA * Compensation: $2.04 * This is a contract job. * OK to highlight this job opening for persons with disabilities * Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster. * Please, no phone calls about this job! * Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 7:04 pm |
| how'd you like being the lead story on channel 5 news john corey? hahahahahahahaaha |
| tuck - 2/27/09, 7:05 pm |
| was just HEADLINED on news 5 mspca seems to be taking it seriously |
| amocro! - 2/27/09, 7:07 pm |
| whoops that was me. |
| JayCal - 2/27/09, 7:07 pm |
| feck i missed it |
| natemcd - 2/27/09, 7:07 pm |
| Woah!!!! Channel 5 just did a story and they said "the video went viral on YouTube and local Message boards" when theycsaid the latter they showed the BLT thread scrolling fast! |
| JayCal - 2/27/09, 7:09 pm |
| shit just got real. hi, world! |
| jonladen - 2/27/09, 7:11 pm |
| boo ya |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/27/09, 7:14 pm |
| SHIT JUST GOT REAL |
| lint - 2/27/09, 7:21 pm |
| natemcd - 11:07 pm (71.232.22.222) Woah!!!! Channel 5 just did a story and they said "the video went viral on YouTube and local Message boards" when theycsaid the latter they showed the BLT thread scrolling fast! the irony being that it actually went viral when they played the clip on the news |
| lint - 2/27/09, 7:22 pm |
| i wonder if john corey is going to sue matt sisto like robin did to his bro |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 7:52 pm |
| hey thanks alot guys for taking action. everything is working out, ill let you know what happens what happens after get fired tommrow |
| George - 2/27/09, 8:19 pm |
| you don't need to be a vegetarian to be offended by animal cruelty jonah, don't be a dick buddy |
| lint - 2/27/09, 8:22 pm |
| weedeater8 - 02/27/09 - 11:52 pm (207.180.130.38) hey thanks alot guys for taking action. everything is working out, ill let you know what happens what happens after get fired tommrow incredible |
| wong - 2/27/09, 8:23 pm |
| weedeater8 is one of the best people i know. |
| wong - 2/27/09, 8:23 pm |
| weedeater8 is one of the best people i know. |
| weedeater8 - 2/27/09, 8:25 pm |
| Honors for this video (7) #15 - Most Discussed (Today) - Education #66 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Germany #89 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Australia #21 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Canada #42 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Ireland #64 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - New Zealand #1 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education youtube stats the internerd rules, thanks again |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 8:28 pm |
| cripes - 02/27/09 - 8:19 pm (168.122.197.181) and until you do stop eating meat, i will fucking laugh in the face of any meat eater who dares try to preach about animal rights fucking hypocritical ASSHOLE == last i checked you werent vegan? |
| lint - 2/27/09, 8:28 pm |
| more than 10K views now! |
| rrrrachel - 2/27/09, 8:28 pm |
| i dont understand when people justify (not that it even needs justification) being vegetarian on the basis that they animals they aren't eating are "cute". |
| lint - 2/27/09, 8:28 pm |
| please let the heyradio vs. cripes vegan deathmatch occur on another thread |
| farhad - 2/27/09, 8:31 pm |
| i'm trying to think of a way for this thread to branch out into a clumsy discussion of capital punishment, but it seems just a little too forced. |
| sebastian - 2/27/09, 8:31 pm |
| i don't understand how anyone could do this. I couldn't ever stomp on a helpless dog (or PUPPY!) in its cage. bummout. |
| BWT - 2/27/09, 8:32 pm |
| A simple search of Boston properties on cityofboston.gov reveals that someone by the name of John
David Corey or John D Corey owns about 5 or 6 properties in the area. It would be a shame if the
wrong people got a hold of those addresses.... http://www.cityofboston.gov/assessing/search/ Just type in "corey" in the search by owners name box |
| lint - 2/27/09, 8:33 pm |
| jesus christ so much crazy lurking going on |
| ryanz - 2/27/09, 8:33 pm |
| oh snap |
| farhad - 2/27/09, 8:33 pm |
| oh for the love of all that's fine and good. great pot-stirring first post, BWT. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 8:34 pm |
| uhhh, rrrachel, it's tongue in cheek. it is not serious. |
| rrrrachel - 2/27/09, 8:35 pm |
| that wasnt directed toward you |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 8:36 pm |
| anyway i dont want to have a "vegan" deathmatch. im not even vegan. besides i like cripes. we will make peace over a bowl in the IRL. but seriously, i think if you say you cant complain about animal abuse if you eat meat, the same argument could be made if you are vegetarian and not vegan. anyway yeah whatever................. hi lurkers. |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 8:39 pm |
| well i am just letting you know i dont think the person who said that was serious. to me it seemed clearly tongue in cheek. |
| rrrrachel - 2/27/09, 8:41 pm |
| but i seen it |
| heyradio - 2/27/09, 8:44 pm |
| they eat puppies in other countries. its just a trend we've had of domesticating them and "mans best friend." there are plenty of ugly dogs out there. we dont eat them. |
| crowjane - 2/27/09, 8:46 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| rrrrachel - 2/27/09, 8:46 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| Marcel - 2/27/09, 8:47 pm |
| heyradio - 12:44 am (76.119.89.136) they eat puppies in other countries. its just a trend we've had of domesticating them and "mans best friend." there are plenty of ugly dogs out there. we dont eat them. almost as good as youtube comments |
| lint - 2/27/09, 8:51 pm |
| now that this thread blew up, can we please get rid of the disclaimer since this thread is totally in the face of its lameness |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 9:07 pm |
| honestly the fact that weedeater appears ready to go into work tomorrow solely to be fired after this humbles me. |
| jilldeathwish - 2/27/09, 9:11 pm |
| youtube video is up to over 10,000 :) |
| offalforbes - 2/27/09, 9:14 pm |
| THE POWER OF THE INTERNET |
| mikep - 2/27/09, 9:25 pm |
| Oi! |
| MichaelStipe - 2/27/09, 10:06 pm |
| weedeater8 for president |
| Shannon - 2/27/09, 11:11 pm |
| MichaelStipe - 2:06 am (76.119.14.140) weedeater8 for president RETIRE ROBIN AS CEO SAYIN. |
| Shannon - 2/27/09, 11:16 pm |
| p.s HE IS HERE IN SPIRIT. dwholey11235 (4 hours ago) Show Hide (YOUTUBE CONTENT) |
| tremulantcake - 2/28/09, 12:18 am |
| i heard about this video today and was honestly exprecting something more horrific. still totally
fucked up though, if i ever went to blanchard's in the first place i guess i'd stop. also, i'm mostly with cripes and jonah. you can feel sad about a puppy getting stepped on if you eat meat, it's legit, but if you care enough about it to get upset, you should consider not eating meat. that said, do jonah and tali do dairy and whatnot? if you care about smushed puppies and beef cows, remember the dairy cows that are every bit as fucked. saying. |
| wong - 2/28/09, 1:19 am |
| this thread and weedeater8 should win lemmingtrail's highest award. name the one that tops this. |
| wong - 2/28/09, 1:22 am |
| DISCLAIMER! he made it happen. and the winner of this year's Lemmy is................................................WEEEDEATER8!!!!!!!!!! amiright? |
| wong - 2/28/09, 1:42 am |
| seriously though, the employees of blanchards are good people. a lot of them are friends and they had nothing to do with this mess. i heard something about threats being called into blanchards tonight. burn the place when its closed or whatever, but dont harm or harass the employees who are just as disgusted as we are. sayin'. |
| wong - 2/28/09, 2:12 am |
| also, upon reading this thread........... uuuuuuuuhhhhhhh really, cripes? preaching is so passe. this is not a personal attack..........this is just sayin. |
| moshburn - 2/28/09, 2:38 am |
| fuck that dude. |
| moshburn - 2/28/09, 2:49 am |
| also: cripes - 02/27/09 - 8:13 pm (168.122.197.181) GO TO A FUCKING FARM AND PET A FUCKING COW AND YOU WILL REALIZE THAT THEY ARE JUST LOVABLE CUTE AFFECTIONATE SMART BIGGER PUPPIES No way. Cows are practically meatloaves who chew cud and stand in shit. They are not affectionate or smart and only cute if you can't fucking smell or hear them. |
| RyanMcGinty - 2/28/09, 3:41 am |
| channel 5
coverage also i need to check with that list of logical fallacies to confirm why i think the vegetarian argument here does not make sense |
| RyanMcGinty - 2/28/09, 4:00 am |
| maybe it has something to do with how the bond we've formed with dogs over the last 15,000 years
differs from the bond we've formed with livestock? like we owe them a bit more? i don't know. i think most meateaters generally have that distinction in their brain and it'd be more constructive to talk about taking down a scumbag puppy stomper instead |
| dsensationale - 2/28/09, 4:09 am |
| Wes - 02/27/09 - 1:42 pm (216.25.247.245) Through the powers of idiotic sensationalism someone just equated a guy jumping on a dog cage with beating women i am not idiotic! |
| patrickm - 2/28/09, 4:37 am |
| Wow @ channel 5 video. |
| dsensationale - 2/28/09, 4:59 am |
| "closely connected" to blanchard's. |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 6:05 am |
| SCURIO33SEXY (10 hours ago) this dudes a cunt wat a dick People claiming the Blanchard's guy is a hermaphrodite! |
| wh - 2/28/09, 6:16 am |
| I'm glad this got media attention. Cripey's lay of teh whiskey! |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 6:18 am |
| Cripes turned this into a maniacal cry for the animal rights whackos to feel hard to. I fucking love it. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/28/09, 6:30 am |
| best part of this report is at 1:06, if you pause it you can see the words "fuck"
"shit" "douchebag" and "douche" written on this thread so good |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 6:31 am |
| I saw wh and ryantheterrible in the quick scroll. |
| missclare - 2/28/09, 6:40 am |
| when did the dudes from earth crisis hack cripes account? |
| missclare - 2/28/09, 6:40 am |
| when did the dudes from earth crisis hack cripes account? |
| ryoji - 2/28/09, 6:43 am |
| animal abuse is animal abuse I think tali is right in being outraged. For someone to commit to a meat-free lifestyle and then see people get outraged over ONE dog is extremely obnoxious and comes off as sensationalizing. I understand that people don't want to support Blanchard's because this guy mistreated that dog, but this one case is a piss in an ocean of animal abuse incurred every single day. To call a vegetarian self-righteous is pretty mind blowing, since it is the meat-eater that has put their self above animals. If this is really something that any of you feel passionate about, extend your love of dogs to other animals and consider their freedom just as warranted as any other being. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/28/09, 6:44 am |
| well congratulations dude, you are a better person than meat eaters, do you feel better now? |
| josephk - 2/28/09, 6:49 am |
| 666 |
| benhenry - 2/28/09, 6:52 am |
| can we talk about how wack it is to stomp out your son's dog? |
| wh - 2/28/09, 6:53 am |
| Wes - 10:31 am (66.31.246.19) I saw wh and ryantheterrible in the quick scroll. ------------- Nice I'm famous. |
| tremulantcake - 2/28/09, 7:15 am |
| i dont understand where cripes went crazy and ryoji is spot on and i'm pretty sure i'm better than the meat eaters. |
| Rory - 2/28/09, 7:22 am |
| man I can't believe I haven't posted in this now famous thread yet. |
| ksada - 2/28/09, 7:25 am |
| ditto |
| RyanMcGinty - 2/28/09, 7:26 am |
| someone stomping on someone's pet in a public setting is a severe violation of the social contract between dogs and humans, as well as between humans and humans, and in that way is not at all the same thing as eating a cheeseburger or raising animals for food. no attempt to equate them with empty rhetoric is going to succeed for anyone who can make distinctions between those concepts. |
| neopolitan - 2/28/09, 7:27 am |
| everyone is going to feel very embarassed when CNN reads this thread |
| Jonahbloodbath - 2/28/09, 7:28 am |
| George - 12:19 am (70.182.63.166) you don't need to be a vegetarian to be offended by animal cruelty jonah, don't be a dick buddy not to keep repeating what others have said, but you don't need to be vedge to be offended by this kind of thing, however if this bothers you considering a vegetarian diet might make sense. |
| ryoji - 2/28/09, 7:30 am |
| That's an incredibly insidious and ass backwards logic. If the philosophy of vegetarianism/veganism is that all beings are equal to humans, then a vegan can not consider other humans to be less than, regardless of their diet or other moral actions. It's not a race or a contest of who is better, it's about respecting life. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/28/09, 7:30 am |
| there's more than one way to kick a puppy |
| holyshit - 2/28/09, 7:38 am |
| Yeah, y'all are crazy. How is killing animals on a daily basis to eat not as bad as puppy
stomping? In any case, fuck that dude. Hope a giant puppy stomps on him someday. |
| tremulantcake - 2/28/09, 7:40 am |
| RyanMcGinty - 11:26 am (71.232.22.222) someone stomping on someone's pet in a public setting is a severe violation of the social contract between dogs and humans, as well as between humans and humans, and in that way is not at all the same thing as eating a cheeseburger or raising animals for food. no attempt to equate them with empty rhetoric is going to succeed for anyone who can make distinctions between those concepts. i don't think these cases being the same thing is the point dude. i think the point is that they similarities that people flip the fuck out over for a cute little puppy and completely ignore for the rest of the animal kingdom, so if you are one to shed tears over a puppy getting kicked, maybe you consider how sad it is for near entire species to be bred into lives of complete shit. i feel like posting in this thread is just dumb at this point because its the same back and forth bullshit over and over again, but i fucking hate how it always has to be "no, you don't get it"/"i think i do, hippie" every time. |
| AmishUrbain - 2/28/09, 7:41 am |
| Alright, this thread has become a more than obnoxious pissing contest but I want to add one thing
before never looking at this again. I understand why people have a problem factory farmed meat,
that makes sense. But the problem with meat eating in general, I don't. Do you not want to accept
that humans are on the top of the food chain or something? Yes, it's involves the killing of animals and it should be done in a much more humane way. The amount of meat products that most Americans eat is waaay to high and that should be cut down. The majority of people do not need nearly that much meat and their bodies do not process it in an efficient way. The waste of other living creatures just "for shits and giglges" is sad and needs to be cut down upon. But since humans have been eating meat to some degree since day one it seems to me to be a very natural part of our diet. It's more so the way that modern society has assembly lined that process that is the real shame. Also, certain animals bond with people more closely than others, e.g. dogs. Therefore, It's not really a surprise that people are more up in arms about a dog being abused for no reason period than a chicken being killed so that humans can ingest the nutrients that they provide. |
| RyanMcGinty - 2/28/09, 7:42 am |
| we just have different priorities. i see it as much worse that an entire species is bred into a life of companionship and respect and then some dude throws a temper tantrum and stomps on a helpless puppy in a public place |
| MichaelStipe - 2/28/09, 7:43 am |
| if you throw a ball to a chicken it probably won't bring it back to you |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 7:44 am |
| I'm not going to read this, I just wanted to suggest that someone post the video on /b/ |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 7:45 am |
| Let nature take its course. |
| PARTICIPATOR - 2/28/09, 7:47 am |
| Everyone on /b/ would just laugh at the dog |
| tremulantcake - 2/28/09, 7:47 am |
| i dont think i know any vegans that believe eating meat is just inherently wrong. somehow i know dozens of people who insist this is a tenant of veganism. |
| sk00 - 2/28/09, 7:48 am |
| second temulantcake poor dog, bad man = find a new liquor store |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 7:55 am |
| tremulantcake - 4:18 am (98.217.139.165) i heard about this video today and was honestly exprecting something more horrific. still totally fucked up though, if i ever went to blanchard's in the first place i guess i'd stop. also, i'm mostly with cripes and jonah. you can feel sad about a puppy getting stepped on if you eat meat, it's legit, but if you care enough about it to get upset, you should consider not eating meat. that said, do jonah and tali do dairy and whatnot? if you care about smushed puppies and beef cows, remember the dairy cows that are every bit as fucked. saying. == i am pretty sure at least tali is not vegan but i dont know about jonah. i know they both drink non vegan beers. |
| cripes - 2/28/09, 7:56 am |
| i think some of you dudes need to go pet some cows |
| tremulantcake - 2/28/09, 7:59 am |
| my point wasn't to call anyone out, i just feel like 'ethical vegetarians' should probably just go vegan, and i think its as important to point out as people who wouldn't torture puppies considering their support for the torture of other animals. |
| AmishUrbain - 2/28/09, 8:00 am |
| Either way, it's good that people CARE enough about another living being which has maltreated to make a stink about it. That's something that is severely lacking in today's society. |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 8:00 am |
| I just think it's as hypocritical to complain about others getting upset if you yourself aren't going to go all out. Because you are still contributing to the suffering of animals. And again, not to mention, there was no END MEAN to the stupid puppy stomping incident. I know organic meat means shit these days but there are meat eaters that contribute less and more to the suffering of animals - same with vegetarians. If this animal is just going to sit around acting as an outlet for someones anger, that is wrong. Factory farming is fucked up. I eat meat maybe once a week. Vegeterian is a nice 'label' or whatever, but whatever, you are still contributing when you eat non-vegan pizza or whatever so get over yourself. |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 8:03 am |
| At the end of the day we are all hypocrites because I also bet half of the vegans are wearing sweatshop made clothes and what about the other human sentient beings that are out there? Anyway I am actually done with this thread now. Hi CNN. |
| MichaelStipe - 2/28/09, 8:05 am |
| do u containe multitoodz? |
| tremulantcake - 2/28/09, 8:06 am |
| agreed, but its also not a contest. i am a very strict vegan and i know that i contribute to mad exploitation every day. there's no way to live completely free of it, and it's near impossible to even live in america without seriosuly fucking a lot up. i think at least doing your best not to support the biggest source of animal exploitation (ie - going vegan and caring about where the rest of your food comes from) is pretty much a no brainer, but as a person that is still far from perfect, i don't think its cool to say vegetarians or even meat eaters have no right to complain or get upset. i just think those people should get upset about other stuff too. |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 8:06 am |
| walt whitman is my homeboy...........................! i will end 4realz on that note |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 8:11 am |
| tremulantcake - 12:06 pm (98.217.139.165) agreed, but its also not a contest. i am a very strict vegan and i know that i contribute to mad exploitation every day. there's no way to live completely free of it, and it's near impossible to even live in america without seriosuly fucking a lot up. i think at least doing your best not to support the biggest source of animal exploitation (ie - going vegan and caring about where the rest of your food comes from) is pretty much a no brainer, but as a person that is still far from perfect, i don't think its cool to say vegetarians or even meat eaters have no right to complain or get upset. i just think those people should get upset about other stuff too. |
| cripes - 2/28/09, 8:12 am |
| pretty sure i said that |
| tremulantcake - 2/28/09, 8:14 am |
| tali, that was directed at sarah, not you. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 8:14 am |
| guys lets not forget, this thread is about the dude from blanchards not having a soul or a wiener ( dear cnn, when quoting me please don't forget the underscore) |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 8:19 am |
| yeah this thread really didn't need to be about anything but this one incident. KABOOM. |
| JayCal - 2/28/09, 8:25 am |
| AmishUrbain nailed it, imho. Also, dear world, go check out RAD TUNEZ while you peruse this thread haha. |
| jonladen - 2/28/09, 8:30 am |
| yes, you sort of said that in a completely obnoxious, over the top way. people post things all the time that get people upset. see: do you eat tomatoes during winter = supporting slavery thread, pig kicking thread, uhuru's tantalum threads. do you not eat tomatoes? do you not use cell phones or computers? would it be ridiculous to say that if you did you have no right to get upset over human rights and are "idiotic?" for most people living in a modern society, you are going to have to tolerate and in some ways support shitty things. i do agree it is important to have knowledge of those things and give thought about what you are doing. some times you have to make compromises in certain areas and hopefully make up for it in others. life is give and take and never black and white and i think its commendable when people make positive choices and actions even if they might contradict themselves in other ways. |
| SkunkEye - 2/28/09, 8:30 am |
| Uh...cows are no where near as cute as a beagle puppy. They don't make comics and Christmas specials starring a stupid fucking cow. Duh. And honestly, the ryoji, you come off so amazingly self righteous in this thread is makes me laugh. At you. |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 8:35 am |
| did you call him "the ryoji"? Hehehe. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 8:41 am |
| <3 lolzer |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 8:43 am |
| PARTICIPATOR - 11:47 am (98.118.16.202) Everyone on /b/ would just laugh at the dog I don't go on there, but from what I know about it, they tend to be pretty ruthless to animal abusers, although this is maybe a bit on the minor side for them to care about. Anyhow, not personal army etc. etc. |
| cmusnyder - 2/28/09, 8:56 am |
| man people sure do love to feel outraged. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 8:56 am |
| someone call blanchards and ask if they have battletoads |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 8:58 am |
| /b/ has far more important things to do like threaten 16-year-old girls in black eyeliner. |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 8:58 am |
| Crappy_Mason - 12:56 pm (72.85.173.248) someone call blanchards and ask if they have battletoads HAHAHAHAH. |
| Kyle - 2/28/09, 9:03 am |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 9:04 am |
| battletoads are apparently hermaphrodites. |
| weedeater8 - 2/28/09, 9:32 am |
| i need a lawyer |
| weedeater8 - 2/28/09, 9:33 am |
| anyone have any ideas other than the ACLU? |
| will - 2/28/09, 9:33 am |
| i can't wait to talk to the huns about this shit i'm sure they are pleased |
| SkunkEye - 2/28/09, 9:35 am |
| weedeater8, do yourself a favor and stop posting about this shit. You're only gonna dig yourself deeper. |
| will - 2/28/09, 9:36 am |
| board.libeltrail.com |
| supriya - 2/28/09, 9:39 am |
| BWAHAHAHHAHAHA, YOU GUYS REALLY MADE THIS ABOUT FOOD? THIS IS WHY YOU ARE FAT |
| weedeater8 - 2/28/09, 9:42 am |
| im not in a hole though, so i cant really dig deeper. |
| SkunkEye - 2/28/09, 9:43 am |
| Oh, ok. Then talk about it here. |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 9:45 am |
| Wow, the ethical vegan/vegitarian people sure fucked things up fast. I mean, I'm all for drastic reform in the meat industry and generally don't eat it mysefl (although I'm not vegetarian), the anti-meat discourse is so embarassing it makes me want to eat about 12 burgers. |
| will - 2/28/09, 9:46 am |
| wait so why do you need a lawyer? |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 9:46 am |
| supriya - 1:39 pm (76.119.14.140) BWAHAHAHHAHAHA, YOU GUYS REALLY MADE THIS ABOUT FOOD? THIS IS WHY YOU ARE FAT hahahaha. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 9:47 am |
| i kinda am curious as to what they said to you when you went into work weedeater. |
| ryanz - 2/28/09, 9:47 am |
| so hot right now |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 9:49 am |
| also, <i>vom - 02/27/09 - 12:47 pm (166.196.119.216) I am glad we can all put aside our differences in the face of puppy stomping and come together in disgust. </i> apparently not :\ |
| mR. id - 2/28/09, 9:49 am |
| I hope Blanchards goes out of business because of this. |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 9:50 am |
| damnit, herf. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 9:50 am |
| i hope it does too, but it so wont. |
| Shannon - 2/28/09, 9:52 am |
| hey anyone that works there.. has the owner been different or has he talked to you about it at all? |
| ryoji - 2/28/09, 9:53 am |
| do you honestly think that the entire workforce of blanchard's should suffer because of this one
person's actions? the economy is pretty shitty right now |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 9:54 am |
| maybe just a new owner would be nice. |
| ryoji - 2/28/09, 9:55 am |
| That's what I'm sayin' |
| ryanz - 2/28/09, 9:57 am |
| I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 9:59 am |
| ryoji - 1:53 pm (24.34.22.173) do you honestly think that the entire workforce of blanchard's should suffer because of this one person's actions? the economy is pretty shitty right now no, but as the owner of the store, the accountability for his actions falls on him and him alone, he fucked up-and if people lose their jobs its his fault. I don't think its fair that an entire workforce suffer because of him, but thats the way it goes in any business, if the person on top fucks up, the people below him get fucked. |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 9:59 am |
| ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer ryanz - 1:57 pm (24.34.57.78) I think everyone who feels wronged by this should get free beer |
| BWT - 2/28/09, 10:09 am |
| This guy should have gotten worse.... Fucking kitten killer MA man sentenced for killing kitten Last Edited: Thursday, 26 Feb 2009, 9:44 AM EST Created On: Thursday, 26 Feb 2009, 9:44 AM EST NEW BEDFORD - A New Bedford man has been sentenced to 90 days in jail after pleading guilty to killing his wife's 3-month-old kitten because he was upset she treated the animal better than him. Luis Alvarez was also placed on probation for two years, ordered to undergo anger management counseling and pay $252 in restitution to the Coalition for Animals. The 31-year-old Alvarez pleaded guilty in New Bedford District Court on Wednesday to one count of animal cruelty. Prosecutors dropped an assault and battery charge. Prosecutors say Alvarez threw the animal down a flight of stairs in October. The kitten died instantly from multiple skull fractures. Alvarez says he did not intend to kill the kitten and asked to be sentenced to community service in an animal shelter |
| Shannon - 2/28/09, 10:21 am |
| on some blog page barstool sports Craigslist - the link below is to a video is of john corey, owner of blanchard's liquors in allston, stomping on the cage his son's beagle puppy is in. rumor has it that this was in response to his son kicking his father's mercedes benz. it disgusts me that there are people out there who think that it's okay to do things like this. animal abuse is not a joke, and i hope that you will join me in boycotting this store...also, don't watch the video if you think it'll bother you, the puppy is not visibly injured in the footage, but it is still really sad to watch... People know how I feel about dogs. This is just about the most disgusting thing I've ever seen in my life. Now there are various reports about who actually did the stomping here. The guy who sent it to me said it was the owner of Blanchard's in Allston and so did most of the commenter's on the youtube video. But before I passed judgment I decided to be a real reporter for the first time in my life and I actually called Blanchard's to ask about this video. I just got off the phone with the owner and told him about the situation. I said this video is starting to go around with somebody stomping a dog and everybody is saying it's you. Is it you? He said the following; It is absolutely not me. I then asked if he knew about anybody in his store stomping a dog. He said he had absolutely no idea what I was talking about but was going to look into it and thanked me for calling" |
| MichaelStipe - 2/28/09, 10:30 am |
| will - 1:36 pm (76.119.66.209) board.libeltrail.com it's not libel if it's true |
| will - 2/28/09, 10:34 am |
| yeah i know that, but weedeater said he needed a lawyer so that was my guess as to why... and it would seem that john [and his lawyers, i imagine] intend to say that it isn't him... so yeah |
| MichaelStipe - 2/28/09, 10:36 am |
| well his face is on the video and there are people who saw him do it so i wouldn't worry too much if i were weedeater8 |
| christopherlame - 2/28/09, 10:37 am |
| ryoji - 1:53 pm (24.34.22.173) do you honestly think that the entire workforce of blanchard's should suffer because of this one person's actions? the economy is pretty shitty right now that doesn't really make sense. jobs replace jobs, right? i mean, if a place closes down, those jobs are lost, but those customers and that economic generation will have to go somewhere else, and wherever it goes, whether it's more beer, or something else completely, like ART MAN, more jobs will be generated elsewhere. |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 10:43 am |
| EXACTLY (yeah i suck for posting in this thread again) i think i said that like 10 times but he obviously doesnt get it either way |
| BeesKnees - 2/28/09, 10:43 am |
| Oh no this thread |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 10:45 am |
| yeah right he had no idea what that person was talking about.. god that is like the most suspicious thing you can say. channel 5 was parked outside blanchards last night and he has no idea ? |
| Shannon - 2/28/09, 10:47 am |
| i thought it was funny dude calls owners like no wai! |
| FidelCastro - 2/28/09, 10:48 am |
| waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaah |
| BeesKnees - 2/28/09, 10:49 am |
| <3 cripes <3 meat </3 physical anger |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 10:57 am |
| Looks like the news got to the thread BEFORE it got embarassing, anyhow. |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 10:58 am |
| Well, before it got REALLY embarassing, anyway. |
| supriya - 2/28/09, 11:18 am |
| shit i didnt see cripes started it and was just told by the roommates that she might think im
calling her fat when in fact i was referring to that crazy blog. -disclaimer -free beer @ 7 |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 11:19 am |
| I WANT FREE BEER FREER |
| cripes - 2/28/09, 11:20 am |
| SORRY DUDES i think i decided to go vegan today, which is something i have been thinking about for a long time except i have this muenster cheese in my fridge anyway i love all my meat eating brethren anyway |
| cripes - 2/28/09, 11:21 am |
| and also i feel like a lot of what i said in here got really misconstrued UHHHHH so many of my
friends eat meat and it would be ridiculous to insinuate that i thought any less of them personal choices life etc etc etc |
| mikechumpchange - 2/28/09, 11:24 am |
| your positions would probably be misconstrued less often if you did a better job of explaining them. |
| cripes - 2/28/09, 11:24 am |
| shut up |
| kayla - 2/28/09, 11:28 am |
| you weedeater8, if i was in boston right now i would give you the biggest high five! |
| ryanz - 2/28/09, 11:34 am |
| FREE BEER |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 11:35 am |
| Where is crazycripes? Normy cripes sucks. |
| cripes - 2/28/09, 11:37 am |
| firestorm to lollify |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 11:38 am |
| Molotoovvvvvvvvvvvvv |
| farhad - 2/28/09, 11:40 am |
| cripes - 3:21 pm (168.122.197.145) and also i feel like a lot of what i said in here got really misconstrued in all seriousness i think people would probably be a lot more receptive to your point of view if you avoiding referring to their point of view as "laughable and silly and fucking idiotic." there's a reason that people were only respectfully disagreeing with jonah while they were outright arguing with you. |
| cripes - 2/28/09, 11:41 am |
| eh whatever i still stand by my original point that i do think it's laughable that people who eat meat are being preachy about animal rights, i just could have been a bit nicer about it. not backtracking in any way though. |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 11:41 am |
| fistfight in the blanchard's parking lot 6pm |
| farhad - 2/28/09, 11:44 am |
| cripes - 3:41 pm (168.122.197.145) eh whatever i still stand by my original point that i do think it's laughable that people who eat meat are being preachy about animal rights, i just could have been a bit nicer about it. not backtracking in any way though. even to call it "laughable" is to paint yourself into a corner in a discussion like this. and if you're not concerned with having a dialog with the people you disagree with, that's fine. but if you're honestly concerned about being misconstrued or unfairly characterized, i think it would behoove you to be "a bit nicer about it." which i think is totally feasible without backtracking. |
| cripes - 2/28/09, 11:46 am |
| i'm nodding |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 11:47 am |
| cRiPes ::nods:: reply? |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 11:49 am |
| the story is now also on wbz's page http://wbztv.com/local/dog.abuse.blanchards.2.946732.html though it's really some of the worst writing/editing ive seen. |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 11:55 am |
| ryoji - 11:30 am (24.34.22.173) That's an incredibly insidious and ass backwards logic. If the philosophy of vegetarianism/veganism is that all beings are equal to humans, then a vegan can not consider other humans to be less than, regardless of their diet or other moral actions. It's not a race or a contest of who is better, it's about respecting life. === I really don't think that is the philosophy of most vegans or vegetarians. I mean, I know when I was vegetarian, I still thought more of humans. If you had to decide between a rat and a human dying, which would you pick? I think it is at least safe to say that this philosophy you have is not true for most vegans and vegetarians. |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 11:56 am |
| I'd pick a rat because I get it more than you sarah. |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 11:57 am |
| Peter Singer, who makes the best arguments for being vegan - would agree with me. |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 11:57 am |
| How am I not making sense?!!! That guy is CRAZY. |
| farhad - 2/28/09, 11:59 am |
| there are multiple philosophies that could motivate one to choose a vegetarian/vegan diet. some are based on a concern for the treatment of animals, whereas others might be based on a concern for the resources needed to produce various foods. i wouldn't be surprised to learn that most (such as my own) are motivated by a blend of various concerns, but i still i think it's worth keeping them distinct in one's mind. |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 12:00 pm |
| farhad is much better at saying what i mean |
| outrageous - 2/28/09, 12:02 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| tremulantcake - 2/28/09, 12:10 pm |
| peter singer is not the god of animal rights. peter singer is actually at odds with lots of vegans on plenty of things. |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 12:17 pm |
| I know.. as I said Farhad put it better. ryoji seemed to be implying that there was one philosophy or that most vegeterians/vegans agreed with that, which I have not found from personal experience is true. But maybe it is for his circle of friends. |
| ryoji - 2/28/09, 12:18 pm |
| really tremulant? In what regards.. |
| ryoji - 2/28/09, 12:23 pm |
| Well what is the philosophy that you find true of the vegans in your life? Is it not based on the welfare of animals? |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 12:27 pm |
| No, it is, but it is certainly not that they are equal.. equal in terms of consideration certainly, but there is a reason we don't let monkeys vote. |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 12:28 pm |
| Pete Wentz didn't write Animal Liberation or anything but I wonder what his take is on this subject. |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 12:29 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED
- CLICK TO VIEW Now we know! |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 12:30 pm |
| even though there are certainly monkeys out there that are probably smarter than humans. but not even all humans can vote. you kill someone, you get locked up and lose your right to vote. you can lose rights. "equal" has so many implications anyway. but if you are hanging out with "bloodmouths" and really think eating a piece of meat is on par with eating a human i dont know how you can really deal with that fact. |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 12:31 pm |
| deal with hanging out with them anyway |
| SkunkEye - 2/28/09, 12:32 pm |
| Guys, let me clear this up for you: Humans>Dogs>Cats>Edible Things>Rocks>Pete Wentz |
| Edzuky - 2/28/09, 12:34 pm |
| this thread was pretty good in the beginning. with people calling attention to what happened so to make this guy more accountable. then it turned into a contest as to who has the most right to feel more grief over what happened to the dog. let me flex my morals for everyone to see. |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 12:35 pm |
| Edzuky - 4:34 pm (98.210.185.131) this thread was pretty good in the beginning. with people calling attention to what happened so to make this guy more accountable. then it turned into a thread. |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 12:35 pm |
| you guys are all morons |
| the.rog - 2/28/09, 12:37 pm |
| I don't like being told that im not allowed to be outraged by the stomping of a puppy because I eat meat. That's totally unfair. |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 12:37 pm |
| it's over Anakin! I have the high ground! |
| cripes - 2/28/09, 12:38 pm |
| good rog BECAUSE NO ONE SAID THAT you dudes are being morons or you're just reading really selectively |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 12:39 pm |
| Yeah I agree. I made a half-assed attempt to derail it when it started and said it should be made into another thread but then I just contributed to the nonsense even after my vows to stop posting. I am done with that issue though at least on the board. Cripes and I will be smoking trees later. Killing precious plants to get highhhh. |
| AmmoniaBooking - 2/28/09, 12:39 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 12:39 pm |
| YOU NEED TO READ CRIPES DIATRIBES THEN GO PET A COW AND THEN SEE THE LIGHT |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 12:40 pm |
| we should all probably just go back to solving problems by beating the crap out of each other. what do you guys say? |
| lint - 2/28/09, 12:41 pm |
| has anybody besides me actually petted a cow before? its not very fun. you feel like they're going to wig out and eat your arm. |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 12:41 pm |
| I think we still do that. |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 12:42 pm |
| our ancestors didn't have message boards, they had knuckles. |
| cripes - 2/28/09, 12:43 pm |
| i petted a bunch of cows recently and it ruled and they were sweet and licked me a bunch |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 12:43 pm |
| Go to Palestine pal. |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 12:44 pm |
| or the allston city lot at 230 am saturday morning |
| lint - 2/28/09, 12:45 pm |
| they tasted you! they were just waiting for you to not pay attention |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 12:46 pm |
| I was being satirical. Or something I'm a peaceful man. how about guitar battles, then? vegetarians and meat-eaters, each pick a representative guitarist. GO! |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 12:47 pm |
| pussy |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 12:49 pm |
| I've pet cows before. They seemed pretty unresponsive, stupid and dirty, but I don't hold it against them. |
| will - 2/28/09, 12:53 pm |
| bung! from universalhub.com: Yet another time we need journalists By neilvandyke | Sat, 02/28/2009 - 12:29am The discussion on lemmingtrail.com reaches epic levels of blather without actually determining what happened. I have to wait for the Globe or Phoenix or someone to investigate. Or at least for an MSPCA press release, if the papers don't follow up. |
| spentplanet - 2/28/09, 1:05 pm |
| Thank the lord this has turned into a two bit discussion on vegetarianism! BOOOO! DOGPACK! |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 1:07 pm |
| It's not my problem if I'm not like you and and sucking Uncle Sam's dick. |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 1:08 pm |
| shave and a haircut, two bits. |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/28/09, 1:09 pm |
| cripes has convinced me to get a pet cow |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 1:10 pm |
| I would own a skunk |
| Edzuky - 2/28/09, 1:11 pm |
| i've pet animals that i've eaten. the same exact one. it really takes people over 20 years to figure out where your food comes from? |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 1:11 pm |
| I want a pet wolf, but I don't want him to be around all the time. I want to be able to summon him
at will to attack people who piss me off. like, I'll whistle and he'll just come running from wherever he was and bite a motherfucker. |
| ryanz - 2/28/09, 1:13 pm |
| New Oui Know song=Dogstomp |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 1:15 pm |
| Humans are omnivores. Why is it such a crime to eat meat? I wish I could plop these people in the Yukon and watch them survive without protein. |
| stoneylarsen - 2/28/09, 1:21 pm |
| Many of you know that I am a manager at Blanchards in Jamaica Plain, and many of you shop at the JP
store. I want you all to know that we really appreciate your continued business, and I really
appreciate those of you who take the time to stop and chat with me (and we managed to score Doug his
case of Brubaker). A big thank you to all of you who repeatedly pointed out that the person in
question seen in the video does not own Blanchard's in JP. We are in no way affiliated with the store in Allston. All other Blanchards are independently owned and operated. We love dogs here. We offer treats to those with dogs and freely allow them to bring the dogs into the store on a leash. |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 1:23 pm |
| I hope this highlights how terrible of a drug alcohol is. It should be legal because it destroys lives and causes people to hurt dogs. |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 1:24 pm |
| Eating meat is fine Modern farming is kind of an abomination Not just meat, all of it to some degree. There're too many of us. |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 1:41 pm |
| submitted for the approval of the midnight society, one of the best if not THE best Calvin and
Hobbes strip: IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 1:43 pm |
| now we just need the owner of the blanchards in allston to p ost. actually i am shocked no one has made that fake account yet. |
| weedeater8 - 2/28/09, 2:06 pm |
| Honors for this video (16) #9 - Most Discussed (Today) - Education #80 - Most Discussed (This Week) - Education #85 - Most Viewed (Today) #50 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Germany #49 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Australia #7 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Canada #43 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - United Kingdom #23 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Ireland #53 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - New Zealand #1 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education #85 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Mexico #77 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - France #92 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - South Korea #93 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Netherlands #24 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Czech Republic #100 - Most Viewed (Today) - Education - Sweden sweet |
| tremulantcake - 2/28/09, 2:16 pm |
| ryoji - 4:18 pm (24.34.22.173) really tremulant? In what regards.. as far as i know, pete singer calls for ethical/humane treatment of animals, but takes little issue with the fact that we use them. I don't read AR philosphy all day or anything, but I was under the impression that singer was pretty much okay with the domestication and breeding of animals for use as food so long as farmers or whoever treat them alright. most vegans i know are of the opinion that factory farming is enslavement and this would be friendly enslavement. no need to make this thread about peter singer, just responding. |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 2:20 pm |
| I'm the inventor of the burning pillow fight, so step up boys and give me a light, in the matches' red glare, feathers burning in air, to the mattresses far below. We studied evil with Paganini. And I've got a nice red violin with strings made from the dried bowels of the dead wife I murdered with a hammer over 23 years ago. So come on boys and light your cigars with one hundred dollar bills cause where you're going you won't need them anymore and prepare to pay me, the fiddler, with your own life because the one you're living isn't good enough. You'll be released from the shackles of the calendrical year because time is only a sewer pipe through which boredom flows slowly. "Hello, who is it?....Oh, another music critic?...well, why don't you just crawl up my ass and spit nickels." So instead of sucking on Satan's anus all the way up the ladder of success, do something for yourselves for a change and join me as we climb the ladder of the great stack of death masks piled one atop the other all the way to the lighter heaven known as multi-messiah land....Alive is fearful, yet it's sweet..... immortal beings suck our meat. All we are in this form is just a vat of warm flesh and pure fat continually collapsing into itself, with lit firecrackers taped onto its side, nervously twitching in a semi-lucid state only partially aware of our own joy and pain. And in one of our more thoughtful moments we invite all of the human race to the Brooklyn Bridge to all hold hands together and then jump off. So, if you ever wondered what Bob Mitchum would look like with a Joan Crawford mask on while engaged to infinity, look at me, the fiddler, as I revoke the law of gravity and perform the final marriage between heaven and earth. (Any of you New Age women ever eat dog?) |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 2:30 pm |
| that is not singer |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 2/28/09, 2:33 pm |
| ORLY? |
| gangstalean - 2/28/09, 2:52 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| ryoji - 2/28/09, 2:56 pm |
| Yeah it's been awhile since I read Animal Liberation but I'm pretty sure that's right. Another one of his arguments is that veganism should be against abortion.. |
| nicholas3 - 2/28/09, 3:01 pm |
| ryoji and cripes stomped a dog |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 3:02 pm |
| ALso he wouldnt really agree with me. I was confusing myself. He is against "speciecism." But he would basically agree it would be less wrong to kill a rat because they do not have long term goals and such. Of course if you had an ape that was smarter than.. say, a severely retarded human, he would say kill the human, |
| nicholas3 - 2/28/09, 3:03 pm |
| i dont think so |
| ryoji - 2/28/09, 3:08 pm |
| then we broke edge in the closet when no one was looking |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 3:10 pm |
| "In a 2001 review of Midas Dekkers's Dearest Pet: On Bestiality,[31] Singer stated that
"mutually satisfying activities" of a sexual nature may sometimes occur between humans and
animals and that writer Otto Soyka would condone such activities. Singer explains Dekker's belief
that zoophilia should remain illegal if it involves what he sees as "cruelty", but
otherwise is no cause for shock or horror. However, Singer does not claim to endorse the views of
either Dekker or Soyka, merely to be explaining them. Singer believes that although sex between
species is not normal or natural,[32] it does not constitute a transgression of our status as human
beings, because human beings are animals or, more specifically, "we are great apes".[31]
Some[who?] religious individuals and animal rights groups have condemned this view." so yes. he doesnt want to draw the lines and goes as far to say that hey maybe if you fuck your dog and your dog likes it, it's ok. |
| heyradio - 2/28/09, 3:12 pm |
| "Peter Singer broke all of his own rules when his mother became ill with Alzheimer's disease.
Michael Specter reported on this in a profile of Singer titled, "The Dangerous
Philosopher" (The New Yorker, September 6, 1999). Singer's mother had reached a point in her
life where she no longer recognized Singer, his sister, or her grandchildren, and she had lost the
ability to reason. In this state, according to Singer's theory, she did not meet the definition of a
person. According to his ethical theory, she ought to have been killed or left to die. Certainly no
money should have been spent on her care, since the money could be better spent lowering the
suffering of the greatest number of other people. Instead, Singer and his sister hired a team of
home health-care aides to look after their mother, spending tens of thousands of dollars in the
process." there you go re: the rat thing i am breaking all my own rules |
| dan g - 2/28/09, 3:31 pm |
| oh great another thread reduced to vegetarianism banter. |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 3:36 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| mariannelee - 2/28/09, 3:56 pm |
| unfortunately this guy makes a lot of his money owning real estate, so theres no huge threat to boycotting blanchards. sucks. |
| gaptooth - 2/28/09, 4:31 pm |
| I think the only thing I can agree with in this thread without being crucified is crowjane's "angry mob" implication. |
| gaptooth - 2/28/09, 4:32 pm |
| oh, and clearly this incident is messed up for a variety of reasons and while I didn't think I should have to say that, I did it anyway. |
| diana - 2/28/09, 5:44 pm |
| MichaelStipe - 02/27/09 - 8:11 pm (76.119.14.140) why can dogs eat meat but not me we're both mammals why can dogs shit on my grandmother's carpet but not me we're both mammals |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 5:52 pm |
| you can shit on your grandmothers carpet all you want, it just won't be as delicious as a burger. |
| Shannon - 2/28/09, 6:18 pm |
| if this threads on the news again i'd like to say HI MOM AND DAD! |
| TheLustyGhost - 2/28/09, 6:37 pm |
| If this thread's on the news again I hope they blur my posts out. |
| Huts - 2/28/09, 6:40 pm |
| HI MOM, LOVE JEREMY (in case it's on the news again) |
| Huts - 2/28/09, 6:40 pm |
| im glad we're going in the right direction with this, on several levels |
| Edzuky - 2/28/09, 6:48 pm |
| JUST IN CASE THIS IS ON THE NEWZ AGAIN.... IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| nbjn2 - 2/28/09, 7:03 pm |
| Before lynching this guy, take another look at the video. At about the tenth second, he is kicking in the side with the puppy clearly in the cage. The door opens, and the puppy scoots out. At the point he stomps on top of the cage, the puppy isn't in the cage. It doesn't appear the puppy was ever touched. |
| tremulantcake - 2/28/09, 7:07 pm |
| well, its not like he just wanted to fuck up the cage and tried stomping around the puppy |
| JayCal - 2/28/09, 7:08 pm |
| nbjn2 joined on February 28th 2009 10:58 PM |
| nbjn2 - 2/28/09, 7:11 pm |
| I only joined to post about this video. |
| crowjane - 2/28/09, 7:13 pm |
| This thread has been. . .ACCELERATED! |
| sempreverde - 2/28/09, 7:14 pm |
| by reasonableness? |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 7:49 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW OH HI TO YOU NEWZ DON'T WORRY ITS NOT A REAL BURGER THATS ALL FROSTING MMMMMMM |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 7:50 pm |
| WHAT DOES NBJN2 STAND FOR!? |
| BeesKnees - 2/28/09, 7:53 pm |
| back, and to the left back, and to the left back, and to the left back, and to the left back, and to the left back, back, and to the left back, and to the left back, and to the left back, and to the left back, and to the left back, and to the left back, and to the left back, and to the left back, and to the left back, and to the left |
| Crappy_Mason - 2/28/09, 7:54 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| matt - 2/28/09, 8:15 pm |
| Not sure if this link has been posted http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/18812053/detail.html |
| pantrymouse - 2/28/09, 9:22 pm |
| my room mate is organizing something for friday night in front of blanchards....8pm. prolly passing out flyers and such. |
| JayCal - 2/28/09, 9:26 pm |
| the flyers that were over there tonight were pretty funny |
| pantrymouse - 2/28/09, 9:33 pm |
| scan it |
| Stoneylawless - 2/28/09, 9:55 pm |
| crowjane - 02/27/09 - 9:02 pm (71.161.64.44) i typically don't beat dogs during Lent MichaelStipe - 02/27/09 - 9:04 pm (76.119.14.140) it is right to give them thanks and praise this was the best part of this thread to me |
| WSJRaff - 2/28/09, 9:59 pm |
| if this thread's on the news again, STREET FIGHTER IS BETTER THAN MORTAL KOMBAT |
| MichaelStipe - 2/28/09, 11:41 pm |
| nbjn2 - 02/28/09 - 11:03 pm (24.60.16.50) Before lynching this guy, take another look at the video. At about the tenth second, he is kicking in the side with the puppy clearly in the cage. The door opens, and the puppy scoots out. At the point he stomps on top of the cage, the puppy isn't in the cage. It doesn't appear the puppy was ever touched. bro this is the internet, we are more sophisticated than you. you joined to post only about this, we can tell. if you watch the video, it is false. i hope john corey isn't paying you too well because you suck at this. |
| Wes - 2/28/09, 11:54 pm |
| GO RED SOX |
| bitter_almond - 3/1/09, 2:15 am |
| I left this thread alone for a while because my opinions about what happened would probably just
piss people off. But I'm really impressed that this went from the OP, to Peter Singer. Go BLT. But now that I'm started, I think that not only is it inconsistent to take a strong position against animal cruelty while supporting the caging and slaughtering of animals through the purchase of meat, but that moreover, if the prevention of cruelty to animals is your primary goal, and given the known imperfection of human nature, the most sensible means to that end would be prohibiting the ownership of animals, as pets or otherwise. This being the case because we know that it is impossible to prevent emotional outbursts and physical expressions of frustration, much as we cannot actually bring about world peace, or banish racism or murder. It follows logically that people cannot inflict cruelty on animals that they cannot keep. I think that this is the real agenda of PETA and I give them some credit for consistency, although I have a different value system myself. In my values, animals are living things ranging in complexity from amoebae to whales, and including humans, which nevertheless are distinct as being the only creatures capable of participating in the social contract, the true source of rights and moral status. In some cases it makes sense for society to extend some consideration (falling short of complete rights) to close kin species due to our understood genetic similarity. Dogs and cats, of course, are less closely related to us than rats are; the reason the former are treated by so many as "family members" has less to do with natural affinity and more with generations of artificial selection for precisely the traits that we identify with human infants. The emotional response we have to pets is a result of this—a circuit in the brain with the function of making us protect and nurture children is mis-triggered by the (measurable) physical traits we have introduced in pets with our breeding program. The emotional response itself isn't a problem, but emotional reactions are a poor basis for social policy, a fact that progressives would be expected to know all too well. I don't think that the agendas of SPCA, PETA etc are really compatible with democratic liberalism. Furthermore, there is a problem with any policy that supports people's emotional response of wanting to protect certain animals. Protecting those animals that do not trigger an emotional response (intended for the nurturing of children) is not even considered; indeed, usually advocates construe the meaning of "animals" as to exclude all those creatures not considered worthy for people to nurture. This makes the value of any given animal entirely dependent on the emotional response it activates in a person. Another way of putting it is that some animals appearing cute is a fact inhering in the people and not in the animals. This means the privileging of pets in society's ethical framework is anti-ecological. Given no special ethical category for nonprimates, the actions of the store owner in the OP are still crazy and amazingly stupid. However, they are directed against property rather than a person, the moral equivalent of vandalism rather than assault. I hope this will be kept in mind by posters making threats against the store owner or wishing him harm. But keying his car is fair. |
| tommyvon - 3/1/09, 6:07 am |
| theres so much BS in this thread i don't know if its been posted, but BOSTON.COM has covered this
story... http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/03/01/youtube_dog_clip_sparks_outrage/< br /> http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/03/01/youtube_dog_clip_sparks_outrage/< br /> http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/03/01/youtube_dog_clip_sparks_outrage/ |
| BeesKnees - 3/1/09, 7:23 am |
| BeesKnees - 02/28/09 - 2:43 pm (64.206.95.115) Oh no this thread |
| TheLustyGhost - 3/1/09, 7:31 am |
| Peta euthanizes thousands of animals every year. Go consistency. |
| lieber - 3/1/09, 7:32 am |
| The door opens, and the puppy scoots out. At the point he stomps on top of the cage, the puppy isn't in the cage. dog is clearly in the cage the entire time. |
| TheLustyGhost - 3/1/09, 7:35 am |
| Yeah, you can actually see it strugling to get out after the stomping is over. |
| luba - 3/1/09, 8:51 am |
| I've written and deleted my response to this thread so many times that it requires condensing
into: 1) Animal abuse sucks. 2) That Blanchard's guy sucks. 3) A lot of people posting in this thread suck like wow. |
| wong - 3/1/09, 8:51 am |
| you can see chris go over to the cage and get the dog out after the stomping. |
| brokenfuses - 3/1/09, 9:55 am |
| Contact me at durban131@yahoo.com for information about protesting in front of this guys store
today/tomorrow. Yes its snowing but we HAVE GOT TO GET THIS GUY 60 DAYS JAIL TIME!!! by z_durban March 01, 11:51 AM Report Abuse |
| MichaelStipe - 3/1/09, 9:58 am |
| the only guy defending john corey in this thread was obviously hired by someone you're such a laughable douche john corey and your money can't help you now |
| lint - 3/1/09, 10:03 am |
| moonroxxx (56 minutes ago) thanks alot from martys man now I gutta deal with all the costomers that arnt gunna shop at your store now scumbag |
| trill - 3/1/09, 10:09 am |
| christ when i looked at the video like 2 days ago it had just over 200 views...now it has over 27000 |
| melshocker - 3/1/09, 10:13 am |
| you're such a laughable douche john corey and your money can't help you now actually I'm guessing it can |
| supriya - 3/1/09, 10:20 am |
| WEEDEATER, SEND THIS VID TO ONE OF THOSE SPIKE TV SHOWS AND GET PAID JOHN COREY, "SUSPEND" A BIG FAT DICK |
| caroline - 3/1/09, 10:26 am |
| michael stipe is such a humanitarian |
| MichaelStipe - 3/1/09, 10:32 am |
| someone really should 4chan this fine citizen |
| Wes - 3/1/09, 10:33 am |
| REM should play a free show for it. |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 10:37 am |
| CHAIN HIM IN THE DOG CAGE HE JUMPED ON THEN WE CAN ALL TAKE TURNS DOING THE CORY_STOMP. LOL@ IDIOT DEFENDING HEARTLESS THE RICH PRICK. |
| supriya - 3/1/09, 10:39 am |
| idiot is either a private investigator or a lawyer so i wouldnt lol he's getting paid out the ass to post on blt |
| cripes - 3/1/09, 10:40 am |
| oh man |
| supriya - 3/1/09, 10:40 am |
| gunna repost this for jp's sake too: stoneylarsen - 02/28/09 - 5:21 pm (24.60.80.115) Many of you know that I am a manager at Blanchards in Jamaica Plain, and many of you shop at the JP store. I want you all to know that we really appreciate your continued business, and I really appreciate those of you who take the time to stop and chat with me (and we managed to score Doug his case of Brubaker). A big thank you to all of you who repeatedly pointed out that the person in question seen in the video does not own Blanchard's in JP. We are in no way affiliated with the store in Allston. All other Blanchards are independently owned and operated. We love dogs here. We offer treats to those with dogs and freely allow them to bring the dogs into the store on a leash. jp rules. |
| Wes - 3/1/09, 10:41 am |
| I hate jp. |
| supriya - 3/1/09, 10:43 am |
| then allstontownes for you that's sad man |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 10:44 am |
| I LOVE ALLSTON W/E THIS PLACE JUST SUXDICK. |
| supriya - 3/1/09, 10:46 am |
| but you have a nice house with jraff and stuff so that doesn't count it's not really allston lock up john corey in denby road and stomp that place |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 10:48 am |
| oops did i throw a snake at you ? sorry john cory IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW SNAKE_THROW FACE_DESTROY |
| Edzuky - 3/1/09, 10:49 am |
| hey guys i'm in boston in 2 weeks. should i bring my own booze? |
| MichaelStipe - 3/1/09, 10:50 am |
| now now his name is spelled corey john corey of blanchards in allston, the puppy stompingest man in town |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 10:50 am |
| IMPORTED_LIQUOR IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| supriya - 3/1/09, 10:50 am |
| plenty of local guys who deserve the business that don't stomp dogs |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 10:51 am |
| my_BAD |
| wwd - 3/1/09, 10:53 am |
| woah I just walked by and someone fucking torched the place! cops everywhere. anyone know what happened? |
| nicholas3 - 3/1/09, 10:54 am |
| you gotta be kidding??? |
| wwd - 3/1/09, 10:56 am |
| I just realized it's march first, not april first. woops. |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 3/1/09, 11:02 am |
| MARCH FOOLS |
| ryanz - 3/1/09, 11:22 am |
| we must go and drink freely from all of the spirits on the shelves, to show the world that we hate stomping young dogs |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/1/09, 11:26 am |
| 900! |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/1/09, 11:26 am |
| FREE BEERS |
| barker - 3/1/09, 11:29 am |
| the place is on fire. look what you people did |
| Nbjn3 - 3/1/09, 12:04 pm |
| Am not in anyones employ. I am not on anyones payroll. I do not know the man. I do not shop there. I do not know anyone who knows the man. Also, I changed my user name because I lost my password. I posted because when I looked at the video frame by frame, starting at the ten second mark, I see the man hitting the top of the cage. I see the puppy getting out of the cage. The puppy is no longer in the cage when the man steps on the cage and destroys it. If you look at the video frame by frame after converting YouTube to full screen, you will see the same thing. |
| Wes - 3/1/09, 12:06 pm |
| Yeah okay pal. That's what keegs used to say. |
| MichaelStipe - 3/1/09, 12:14 pm |
| nbjn3 you are full of shit and no one believes you go tell john corey to fuck himself |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 3/1/09, 12:20 pm |
| it seems the "black hand of allston" has revealed itself on the internet as well! |
| crowjane - 3/1/09, 12:25 pm |
| epic tRead |
| ryanz - 3/1/09, 12:36 pm |
| John Corey - For $10,000 I will campaign for your good name. When you think about it, that's not that much money for you, especially considering these dire circumstances. If you read this, get in touch with me, or if nbjn3 could let him know about my proposal, I'd be most grateful. thanks! |
| RyanMcGinty - 3/1/09, 1:03 pm |
| over 15000 hits on the youtube have come from barstoolsports.com |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/1/09, 1:07 pm |
| you can't see the puppy for like a second but you for sure dont see him/her scoot out. also what was your old username nbjn3? |
| Huts - 3/1/09, 1:49 pm |
| yea, actually, at about 19 seconds into the video I think you can pretty clearly see that the dog IS still in the cage with the collapsed top part on top of him. |
| matt - 3/1/09, 2:31 pm |
| This Nbjn3 person was so concerned with his identity being outed, he actually signed up for a
temporary email address just to register his account. xxxxx@spamcorptastic.com Hilarious. Douchebag. |
| matt - 3/1/09, 2:36 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/1/09, 2:37 pm |
| lol |
| Wes - 3/1/09, 2:39 pm |
| I like this Matt character. |
| Huts - 3/1/09, 2:40 pm |
| lol@matt |
| Wes - 3/1/09, 2:41 pm |
| Huts come in to harpers and drink with me tonight I'm managing. |
| EmilyViolet - 3/1/09, 2:42 pm |
| Wait for it... |
| Wes - 3/1/09, 2:42 pm |
| I won't be drinking, but you could. And we could like hang out. |
| Edzuky - 3/1/09, 2:42 pm |
| blt justice |
| matt - 3/1/09, 2:43 pm |
| wtf @ his user pic!?!?!? |
| EmilyViolet - 3/1/09, 2:43 pm |
| There we go. |
| lint - 3/1/09, 2:44 pm |
| WTF is that |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/1/09, 2:44 pm |
| he just put that up too |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 2:52 pm |
| haha WOW yeah i was gonna say something...err. |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/1/09, 2:58 pm |
| Nbjn3 - 4:04 pm (141.154.29.79) Am not in anyones employ. Nbjn3 - 4:04 pm (141.154.29.79) Am not in anyones employ. Nbjn3 - 4:04 pm (141.154.29.79) Am not in anyones employ. Nbjn3 - 4:04 pm (141.154.29.79) Am not in anyones employ. Nbjn3 - 4:04 pm (141.154.29.79) Am not in anyones employ. Nbjn3 - 4:04 pm (141.154.29.79) Am not in anyones employ. |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 3:00 pm |
| THATS WHAT HE SAID |
| Huts - 3/1/09, 3:02 pm |
| what was the userpic?! what did i miss?! dammit!! |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/1/09, 3:07 pm |
| TROLL! |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 3:07 pm |
| nbjn2 - 69/42/0 - 11:11 pm (193.200.150.47) I only joined to post BECAUSE I AM A DOUCHBAG. |
| MichaelStipe - 3/1/09, 3:08 pm |
| he joined up on youtube as BCEagle211 you're worse than scum |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 3:10 pm |
| LURKER OUT WITH YOURSELF IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| Huts - 3/1/09, 3:16 pm |
| MichaelStipe - 7:08 pm (76.119.14.140) he joined up on youtube as BCEagle211 is this actually the same person? |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 3:18 pm |
| screwjohncorey (6 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam you sure do know a lot about the situation as an uninterested law student. what's your take on intimidating a witness? BCEagle211 (10 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam I have nothing to do with john corey, I don't know who he is and I don't care. I am just a law student who thinks this is an interesting situation. Legally all the parties are in a world of trouble, but I dont not think risking a criminal record is worth all this personally considering its not his dog and the dog is fine. Also, with all the threats made on this site everyone you conspired with is also responsible and can be held liable. ProfesorMacOnline (12 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam Sad episode... screwjohncorey (12 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam yet another john corey plant who just joined youtube today to threaten a brave kid. In Massachusetts, it is wrongful termination to be fired for reporting a crime, hope you got some killer lawyers johnny colby0724 (17 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam What we have here is just wrong! Will never shop here period ever again. Moving over to the new neighborhood store inside Shaws mkt on Comm Ave. which is much less of a walk. Just as large of a selection of micro's and the folks are friendly. See everyone there!! screwjohncorey (17 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam john corey is the owner of this blanchards and the man stomping a puppy. he lives at 51 Marshall Rd in milton, ma. all of these weird supportive comments on the internet are from people he is paying off. sleep well john boy BCEagle211 (25 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam Rumor has it that Eric hacked into the stores computer and stole this video clip which was already being used in an open investigation by the authorities. Maybe John Corey and Eric will be cell mates. |
| JackMcCarthy - 3/1/09, 3:20 pm |
| i saw the flyers outside today. glad the word is getting out. |
| ryoji - 3/1/09, 3:23 pm |
| that looks like a scene from day of the dead.. |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 3:23 pm |
| What? the dog stomping video on youtube? |
| ryoji - 3/1/09, 3:26 pm |
| haha what? i mean the img you just posted... |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 3:27 pm |
| I know i was jk. |
| MichaelStipe - 3/1/09, 4:46 pm |
| screwjohncorey (2 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Remove john corey's true colors are coming out through this bceagle211 trying to intimidate witnesses in this police investigation he's so concerned with protecting the integrity of. john corey lives at 51 marshall rd in milton mass |
| lint - 3/1/09, 4:47 pm |
| bwahahahah |
| MichaelStipe - 3/1/09, 4:48 pm |
| john corey you suck at the internet |
| sempreverde - 3/1/09, 4:54 pm |
| control+f: "sempreverde" i cant believe no one has a crush on me |
| nbjn3 - 3/1/09, 4:58 pm |
| I'm not that BCEagle guy. And Matt: Was I supposed to trust you with my information? You posted my registration with fake comments. You scoured the Internet looking for information about me. And now it appears as though people are harrassing that guy on YouTube, thinking it's me. Please don't get me wrong. Kicking the side of the crate to get the dog out was horrific, and I would not allow this guy near any pet of mine. But the fact is, there's no way a tiny dog could survive a grown mans weight. That's why the dog could not have been in that crate. But that's really beside the point now isn't it? A large group of you want blood, |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 4:59 pm |
| stop posting and kill yourself |
| Huts - 3/1/09, 5:02 pm |
| dude, I don't know what video you are "watching" but it seems pretty clear that the dog is
still in the cage... go to :19 seconds into the video, you can see the dog trying to get the top of
the cage off it. why am i bothering to argue with this dude, argh. |
| EmilyViolet - 3/1/09, 5:02 pm |
| Yes, I want blood BLOOD IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| paintedbird - 3/1/09, 5:02 pm |
| Huts - 5:49 pm (76.119.64.185) yea, actually, at about 19 seconds into the video I think you can pretty clearly see that the dog IS still in the cage with the collapsed top part on top of him. puppy saw the wrecked cage, ran back in & pretended to be shaken up. puppy's faking it. |
| TheLustyGhost - 3/1/09, 5:20 pm |
| OH HEY, BOOOBS |
| Morgan - 3/1/09, 5:24 pm |
| nbjn3 - 8:58 pm (12.40.50.1) Please don't get me wrong. Kicking the side of the crate to get the dog out was horrific. nbjn3 - 8:58 pm (12.40.50.1) Please don't get me wrong. Kicking the side of the crate to get the dog out was horrific. nbjn3 - 8:58 pm (12.40.50.1) Please don't get me wrong. Kicking the side of the crate to get the dog out was horrific. nbjn3 - 8:58 pm (12.40.50.1) Please don't get me wrong. Kicking the side of the crate to get the dog out was horrific. IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| EmilyViolet - 3/1/09, 5:24 pm |
| Blood, and boobs. Girl vampires appear to be busty. |
| EmilyViolet - 3/1/09, 5:29 pm |
| DEEZ DOGZ WANT BLOOD TOO IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 5:31 pm |
| emily... ordont girl. |
| petey - 3/1/09, 5:31 pm |
| so ultimately what happened |
| EmilyViolet - 3/1/09, 5:32 pm |
| I have way too much procrastination on my hands to ordont. |
| Shannon - 3/1/09, 5:33 pm |
| also peep that youtube shit. some realy A+ stuff on video the responses |
| SkunkEye - 3/1/09, 5:45 pm |
| Shannon - 9:31 pm (146.115.27.99) emily... ordont girl. hahaha |
| JayCal - 3/1/09, 6:29 pm |
| <3 shannon |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/1/09, 7:38 pm |
| this shit is getting pretty heavy on the youtube comments |
| matt - 3/1/09, 9:10 pm |
| If by scoured the internet, you mean i spent about 30 seconds googling and looking at the website you registered your fake email from... then sure. yeah.... i scoured the internet looking for information about you. |
| wong - 3/1/09, 9:35 pm |
| petey - 03/01/09 - 9:31 pm (76.19.208.96) so ultimately what happened there is no ultimate yet. it is only beginning. there are many lawyers and private investigators involved now. also, employees of blanchards are good people and should not be threatened an employee posted the video after all. |
| ryanz - 3/1/09, 9:36 pm |
| yeah blanchards employees are all top shelf folks |
| Drana - 3/1/09, 9:38 pm |
| Fuck Blachards. I have hard feelings for them ever since they denied my real ID, and this just makes me feel good about hating to go there. |
| anonuser - 3/1/09, 10:45 pm |
| This is cunty still. Great. How has no one handed this fucker's ass to him. |
| the.rog - 3/1/09, 10:50 pm |
| it's pretty fucking clear the dog is in the crate. |
| ryanz - 3/1/09, 10:52 pm |
| i dunno...that guy did a prettttyyyy good job at convincing me... |
| Wes - 3/1/09, 11:21 pm |
| I wish cripes loved animals as much as she loved humans |
| kayla - 3/2/09, 1:42 am |
| wait, those jeannecorey comments that are now deleted? was that actually jeanne who posted them? what did she have to say? i always thought she was a nice lady and was seriously confused why she was married to such a piece of shit. but i can only guess that if it was her, she defended his actions and that sucks. |
| kayla - 3/2/09, 1:45 am |
| also, i think if i still worked there when this happened i possibly would have tackled this piece of
shit. how does blanchards still have windows? throw some bricks through that shit when the store is closed. also, i support ryan's free beer initiative. |
| tommyvon - 3/2/09, 7:23 am |
| "By neilvandyke | Sat, 02/28/2009 - 12:29am The discussion on lemmingtrail.com reaches epic levels of blather without actually determining what happened." i couldnt agree more. ps, channel 5 has it now: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/18812053/detail.html |
| AmmoniaBooking - 3/2/09, 7:33 am |
| lol nick blakey. |
| matthew - 3/2/09, 8:00 am |
| OH MY GOD YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE A DUDE HAS TO LIFT UP PART OF THE CAGE TO GET THE DOG OUT AT THE END OF THE VIDEO |
| xdementia - 3/2/09, 8:10 am |
| I like where this thread is going!!! |
| Jonahbloodbath - 3/2/09, 8:10 am |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| MichaelStipe - 3/2/09, 8:19 am |
| don't even argue with that dude, he's working for john corey. no one believes the dog wasn't in the
cage. also lol @ " Kicking the side of the crate to get the dog out " |
| MichaelStipe - 3/2/09, 8:20 am |
| john corey your attempt at spinning this in your favor would be laughable if it weren't so disgusting |
| TheLustyGhost - 3/2/09, 8:24 am |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO
VIEWIMAGE REMOVED -
CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE
REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW <FONT SIZE=24>HAI 2 U CNN!!!!!!!!</FONT> IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW <FONT SIZE=24>HAI 2 U CNN!!!!!!!!</FONT> IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW <FONT SIZE=24>HAI 2 U CNN!!!!!!!!</FONT> IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW <FONT SIZE=24>HAI 2 U CNN!!!!!!!!</FONT> IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEWIMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| TheLustyGhost - 3/2/09, 8:25 am |
| SHIT, font tag doesn't work? |
| Morgan - 3/2/09, 8:26 am |
| You have to put the number in quotes, and I think it tops out at FONT SIZE="6" sadly. |
| hadtopwnya - 3/2/09, 8:53 am |
| this is great |
| luba - 3/2/09, 9:19 am |
| dude, where's your choose your own adventure? i'm bored and want to play it. |
| hadtopwnya - 3/2/09, 9:32 am |
| you have to find it at my htmlerriffic new site. there's a fake band in the "bio" section that'll take you there. |
| will - 3/2/09, 9:43 am |
| HI FOXNEWS, THIS IS ME FORCING PUPPIES TO LISTEN TO MY QUEER SOCIALIST HYPNODRONE!!!!!!!!!!!! ALSO TELL NANCY GRACE MY DAUGHTER IS MISSING AND I DON'T EVEN CARE!!!!!!!!! KTHXBYE |
| will - 3/2/09, 9:45 am |
| I JUST WANNA BE #1000 |
| supriya - 3/2/09, 9:46 am |
| FULL_NAME_SUK |
| will - 3/2/09, 9:55 am |
| oh i get it lol |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 3/2/09, 11:43 am |
| ♫♫♫♫ |
| asha - 3/2/09, 11:44 am |
| ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ |
| supriya - 3/2/09, 11:45 am |
| that's awesome |
| TheLustyGhost - 3/2/09, 11:58 am |
| Morgan - 12:26 pm (65.96.37.110) You have to put the number in quotes, and I think it tops out at FONT SIZE="6" sadly. SHIT |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/2/09, 11:59 am |
| wow asha that angry alien rules |
| TheLustyGhost - 3/2/09, 11:59 am |
| colorpenis is the boundary between shitty thread and awesome thread. |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/2/09, 12:01 pm |
| yeah color penis took this thread to the next level |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/2/09, 12:04 pm |
| dudes this just in here is a gif on jon corey with a puppy. this proves he loves dogs and would never hurt one IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/2/09, 12:07 pm |
| gif of* |
| coweatman - 3/2/09, 12:07 pm |
| if y'all homebrewed you could be reasonably sure no one involved in your beer stomped on a puppy. just saying. |
| TheLustyGhost - 3/2/09, 12:10 pm |
| homobrewed |
| norstroms - 3/2/09, 12:12 pm |
| i knew those little poodles were good for something |
| ksada - 3/2/09, 12:12 pm |
| fuck it, 999 |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/2/09, 12:12 pm |
| 1000 |
| ksada - 3/2/09, 12:12 pm |
| One Thousand!!! |
| sempreverde - 3/2/09, 12:13 pm |
| BLANCHIDS |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/2/09, 12:13 pm |
| u mad |
| ksada - 3/2/09, 12:13 pm |
| damn you, 999 is still not bad though... |
| ryanz - 3/2/09, 12:14 pm |
| the guy sucks!! |
| diddy - 3/2/09, 12:21 pm |
| maybe someday... |
| ryanz - 3/2/09, 1:34 pm |
| NO MORE DOGSTOMPING. |
| kayla - 3/2/09, 1:41 pm |
| DOWN WITH PUPPY STOMPING, UP WITH FREE BEER! |
| anonuser - 3/2/09, 6:59 pm |
| Why did this get taken down? |
| heyradio - 3/2/09, 7:00 pm |
| i assume lawyers.. |
| adamh - 3/2/09, 8:08 pm |
| the dogstompers sounds like an australian oi band. |
| Shannon - 3/2/09, 8:17 pm |
| This video has been removed by the user. |
| heyradio - 3/2/09, 9:46 pm |
| New link |
| spentplanet - 3/2/09, 9:47 pm |
| AHHH man... does anyone have this on their comp?? ill host it from my youtube... oioi |
| heyradio - 3/2/09, 9:48 pm |
| oh man that one doesnt work either |
| BeesKnees - 3/2/09, 10:33 pm |
| the plot twists keep this thread alive |
| ryanz - 3/2/09, 10:38 pm |
| Youtube supports stomping of young dogs. |
| ryanz - 3/2/09, 10:38 pm |
| Youtube supports stomping of young dogs. |
| lint - 3/2/09, 10:53 pm |
| FUCK YOU JOHN CASEY OF MILFORD, MA., YOU PIECE OF SHIT. |
| lint - 3/2/09, 10:53 pm |
| MATT SISTO, REMOVE IP ADDRESSES SO JOHN CASEY'S FASCIST LAWYERS CAN'T TRY TO SUE ALL OF US. |
| kayla - 3/2/09, 10:58 pm |
| dude, it is JOHN COREY. get it right! |
| lint - 3/2/09, 10:59 pm |
| <B>FUCK YOU JOHN COREY OF MILFORD, MA., YOU PIECE OF SHIT. PS. MATT IP THING ETC |
| lint - 3/2/09, 10:59 pm |
| i even got a herf in there. |
| Crappy_Mason - 3/3/09, 2:14 am |
| I HOPE WEEDEATER42069 IS DOING OK DUDE IS A HERO |
| MichaelStipe - 3/3/09, 5:31 am |
| this link works |
| bradley - 3/3/09, 5:34 am |
| the video is here |
| bradley - 3/3/09, 5:35 am |
| I now owe MichaelStipe a coke. |
| weedeater8 - 3/3/09, 8:52 am |
| http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/eve/1055036394.html |
| TheLustyGhost - 3/3/09, 8:59 am |
| FWIW, I did eventually post the video on 4chan (breaking my never-posted-on-4chan edge) the other day, but I'm sure it sunk like a stone. |
| Huts - 3/3/09, 8:59 am |
| heard a rumor that Marty's is shutting down... dunno if it's true, but apparently it's not a great month for alcohol in allston |
| TheLustyGhost - 3/3/09, 9:00 am |
| That's about as far as I'm going with this, though, it's definitely getting into peasants with torches territory. |
| jbux - 3/3/09, 9:06 am |
| I am at suffolk right now and I just heard some bratty girl go "OMG I am boycotting Blanchards. I mean, they had the best selection but whatever." |
| wong - 3/3/09, 9:12 am |
| i get out of work at 8 on friday. i will go to blanchards. |
| RyanMcGinty - 3/3/09, 10:22 am |
| good! the bratty college girl demographic is an important one to steer the hell away from allston
blanchards. i am glad this is reaching them |
| r_dorissa - 3/3/09, 10:53 am |
| Just wondering... Would a contrite statement -- or public apology of some sort -- change anyone's mind in any way? ~rob |
| yo_wasabi? - 3/3/09, 11:10 am |
| yeah. public apology coupled with a substantial donation to the mspca would help. people do stupid shit. not owning up to it makes you a scumbag. |
| supriya - 3/3/09, 11:13 am |
| or worse than not owning up to it, actively placing blame on employees and manipulating the facts of the situation |
| yo_wasabi? - 3/3/09, 11:17 am |
| def supriya. |
| TEX - 3/3/09, 11:23 am |
| Then you get some classic comment from the Globe coverage: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/03/01/youtube_dog_clip_sparks_outrage/< br /> But these same good folk who get so upset about a dog, maybe, getting hurt, will bring their baby in the womb to be slaughtered while little he or her sleeps in the supposed saftey of his or her moms womb. by John5-29 March 01, 7:44 AM 6265777249018754378 Report Abuse |
| supriya - 3/3/09, 11:27 am |
| oh my christ i thought the food thing was bad. what the fuck is wrong with people. |
| Huts - 3/3/09, 11:28 am |
| i only abort bloodmouth babies so that guy can shut up |
| supriya - 3/3/09, 11:28 am |
| "little he or her sleeps" totally validates his point, though, that's lyrical genius |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 11:28 am |
| this thread is too long to read I'm only posting to see the replies get to 1,500 at least!!!! |
| digger - 3/3/09, 11:29 am |
| The Gambolling Lamb thread was better. And longer. |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 11:30 am |
| dig if you could choose the size of your thread what would it be? |
| TEX - 3/3/09, 11:31 am |
| I wonder how often "John 5-29" trolls message boards and readers comments sections, just waiting for an excuse to bring it back to the "little he or she sleeping" .... |
| digger - 3/3/09, 11:31 am |
| hmm... my thread or like, the average person's thread? |
| lopan - 3/3/09, 11:32 am |
| I finally posted in this thread!!! woo!! I feel so alive!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 11:32 am |
| i dunno the ideal for you |
| digger - 3/3/09, 11:34 am |
| I guess people like different size threads for different purposes. I feel like this thread might have been OK around 5-10 posts. |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 11:36 am |
| agreed 5-10 posts, one or two boob and penis jokes and get out! |
| digger - 3/3/09, 11:38 am |
| "The tenets of the Sith are more than just words to be memorized. Learn them, understand them.
They will lead you to the true power of the Force; the power of the dark side." ―Qordis |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 11:40 am |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| digger - 3/3/09, 11:44 am |
| hey prescott! |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 11:45 am |
| hiya dig... |
| digger - 3/3/09, 11:48 am |
| would you say you are right-handed or left-handed? |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 11:49 am |
| oof, uuumm I'd have to say I generally eat meat with my RIGHT hand. |
| digger - 3/3/09, 11:51 am |
| I was just reading that the Sith, as a species, were exclusively left-handed. What do you think about that? |
| digger - 3/3/09, 11:52 am |
| I mean, they were the quintessential bloodmouths, if you think about it. |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 11:53 am |
| I think it's sinister |
| digger - 3/3/09, 11:54 am |
| You think - what do you think THEY thought about it? |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 11:56 am |
| OHHHHH I get it! |
| digger - 3/3/09, 11:56 am |
| Yeah, changes your WHOLE Perspective, don't it! |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 11:57 am |
| OH Lucas you are a slippery devil! |
| digger - 3/3/09, 11:58 am |
| Plus, always using beasts for labor! Banthas. The wild Wampa that kills! With its teeth! Grrraaaar |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 11:59 am |
| the taun taun!!! |
| JCW - 3/3/09, 11:59 am |
| not even a beagle deserves being stomped on. |
| paintedbird - 3/3/09, 12:18 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| streganona - 3/3/09, 12:19 pm |
| #skittles |
| digger - 3/3/09, 2:23 pm |
| I thought these things smelled bad... on the outside |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 2:24 pm |
| ben! BEN! Dig you look strong enough to pull the ears off a Gundar! |
| digger - 3/3/09, 2:26 pm |
| well my tauntaun froze before I reached the first marker |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 2:27 pm |
| then I'll see you in HELL! |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 2:29 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| digger - 3/3/09, 2:29 pm |
| They rode the tauntauns. They didn't mind if they froze. Hell they cut them open and put their passed out friends inside of the tauntauns, but one thing's for damned sure - THEY DIDN'T EAT THEM. Nor did they stomp on them either, come to think of it. |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 2:33 pm |
| well even if they DID no one on this board would complain! |
| digger - 3/3/09, 2:35 pm |
| It's kind of like when you're in a war. You can blow the other guy to hell, you can shoot him with a huge machine gun, you nuke them, but for the love of god, don't take their pants off or put bags over their heads and make them pose for photos. |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 2:36 pm |
| thumbs up dude! |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 2:37 pm |
| COME ON DIG! we're almost at 1,100! |
| digger - 3/3/09, 2:38 pm |
| did you ever think you'd see the day? |
| heyradio - 3/3/09, 2:39 pm |
| yeah dude needs to apologize and own up and not bring his employees to court over his douchebaggery. |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 2:40 pm |
| never, this thread is ALIVE, soon it will think on it's own! |
| ryanz - 3/3/09, 2:40 pm |
| HEY HEY HO HO THIS PUPPY STOMPER'S GOT TO GO |
| heyradio - 3/3/09, 2:41 pm |
| a benefit for weedeater should be organized assuming he lost his job and has legal fees and such i would be down to help in any way |
| digger - 3/3/09, 2:43 pm |
| Prescott,. I just heard Deval's going on vacation! In the midst of all this chaos! THANKS FOR YOUR TAX DOLLARS LOL |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 2:45 pm |
| I'll stuff HIM in a Tuan Tuan! requiring GPS in every car in mass... HA! |
| digger - 3/3/09, 2:47 pm |
| Only if you've paid your tauntaun tax! So what's this weedeater guy all about? |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 2:49 pm |
| weed eating from what it seems |
| digger - 3/3/09, 2:52 pm |
| anything this guy WON'T eat??? |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 2:52 pm |
| Taun Taun I'd wager! |
| Prescott - 3/3/09, 2:56 pm |
| NINE MORE |
| Mxyzptlk - 3/3/09, 3:39 pm |
| ok, i've scanned this thread and this is my favorite part: cripes - 02/27/09 - 7:30 pm (168.122.197.181) i just think it is laughable and silly and fucking idiotic that some people in this thread are all in a huff IS IN THE SAME FUCKING POST AS: did you know that the meat you eat comes from animals that were once living and part of species that have been proverbially stomped on millions of times just so you can EAT SOMETHING? okay. well, then don't come in crying about this dude stomping on a dog cage. puppies and cows are both living creatures, you just don't eat dogs so your stupid minds are blocking out what you want to block out |
| dan g - 3/3/09, 7:33 pm |
| holy shit this chucklefuck is from Milford? hmmmmmmmm ....... |
| heyradio - 3/3/09, 9:05 pm |
| wait, mxyzptlk, i am not sure you understand what she was saying. why is it weird its in the same post? shes just saying she thinks its 'idiotic' that certain people think it's horrible, because the irony is that they contribute to animal harm every day and don't mind eating a burger or really think about it |
| lint - 3/3/09, 9:07 pm |
| maybe the irony is because she's in a huff. |
| digger - 3/4/09, 4:12 am |
| mxy, would you eat dog? |
| SkunkEye - 3/4/09, 4:55 am |
| Cripes calling anyone idiotic is pretty laughable. |
| SkunkEye - 3/4/09, 4:56 am |
| TRIPLE POST FRENZY |
| SkunkEye - 3/4/09, 4:56 am |
| TRIPLE POST FRENZY |
| SkunkEye - 3/4/09, 4:56 am |
| That was a sham. |
| digger - 3/4/09, 4:56 am |
| she's in it for the laughs, skunkeye |
| Prescott - 3/4/09, 5:03 am |
| DIGGER 1,101! |
| digger - 3/4/09, 5:06 am |
| prescott, do you think the pwner of blanchards would have eaten the dog if that dude didn't rush in and start hugging it? |
| Prescott - 3/4/09, 5:07 am |
| eaten it, or sold it to Rednecks. |
| digger - 3/4/09, 5:10 am |
| and, had he eaten it, where do you think the current thread would be? also, I remember eating at redneck's once when I was just a youngster playing at O'Briens for the first time. Did you know they regard dysentery as a condiment there? |
| Mxyzptlk - 3/4/09, 5:14 am |
| digger - 8:12 am (18.38.2.103) mxy, would you eat dog? won't eat dog, neither. |
| Mxyzptlk - 3/4/09, 5:18 am |
| the thing i liked about the post was that it was all in a huff AND was prefaced with "i just think it is laughable and silly and fucking idiotic that some people in this thread are all in a huff" |
| Mxyzptlk - 3/4/09, 5:25 am |
| it's also funny to me that huge swaths of land are cleared of their ecosystems, including killing
lots of animals and maintained by killing animals, to feed us humans vegetables, and someone thinks
she has more of a right to be pissed off because a dog was tortured than someone else because she
doesn't eat meat. but that's not as entertaining as the getting all huffy part. |
| luba - 3/4/09, 5:27 am |
| obvs all injustices are not created equal, and the ones that happen to be in the forefront of someone's mind are reason enough to yell at everyone who doesn't agree. duh. |
| Mxyzptlk - 3/4/09, 5:30 am |
| DO YOU PEOPLE REALIZE HOW MANY CUTE LITTLE BUNNIES WERE KILLED TO PREVENT THEM FROM EATING THE BABY CARROTS YOU CHOW DOWN AT WHOLE FOODS MINDLESSLY?!? AND YOU ACT ALL MAD BECAUSE ONE LITTLE DOG WAS STOMPED ON?!?! |
| digger - 3/4/09, 5:46 am |
| But a dog's a filthy animal, mxy,. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 5:52 am |
| i hate animals now. |
| Mxyzptlk - 3/4/09, 5:54 am |
| I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy... definitely dirty. But a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way. |
| digger - 3/4/09, 5:58 am |
| so if a pig had a personality, it would cease to be a filthy animal? |
| Mxyzptlk - 3/4/09, 6:03 am |
| Well, we'd have to be talking about some charming fucking pig! He'd have to be a hell of a lot more charming than that Arnold from Green Acres! |
| SkunkEye - 3/4/09, 6:07 am |
| If bacon or pork chops came from dogs, I'd eat them. I'd pet them and then eat them. |
| Mxyzptlk - 3/4/09, 6:09 am |
| Bacon tastes gooooood.... Pork chops taste gooooood.... |
| digger - 3/4/09, 6:14 am |
| what are you guys jewish? |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:15 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:15 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:15 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:15 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:16 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:16 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:16 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:16 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:16 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:16 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:16 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:16 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:16 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:17 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:17 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:17 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| BeesKnees - 3/4/09, 6:17 am |
| one persons ethics are different then another persons ethics. |
| digger - 3/4/09, 8:44 am |
| why you gotta bring ethnicity into this? |
| peterparker - 3/4/09, 8:55 am |
| i still hope that everyone that is upset about this is a vegetarian. |
| detuned - 3/4/09, 6:03 pm |
| http://bostonist.com/2009/03/04/blanchards_boss_bashes_beagle.php |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 3/4/09, 6:09 pm |
| so i guess my friend who works there quit. she's worked there for a very very long time |
| heyradio - 3/4/09, 6:13 pm |
| peterparker - 12:55 pm (216.177.19.102) i still hope that everyone that is upset about this is a vegetarian. == dont you mean vegan? otherwise its hypocritical. |
| dustin - 3/4/09, 6:18 pm |
| shut up |
| R.Schwarzkogler - 3/4/09, 6:19 pm |
| hahahahaha |
| heyradio - 3/4/09, 6:20 pm |
| eff you |
| dustin - 3/4/09, 6:21 pm |
| dustin - 10:18 pm (146.115.105.123) shut up |
| offalforbes - 3/4/09, 6:23 pm |
| I hear this guy's car is awesome |
| adamh - 3/5/09, 5:32 am |
| my ethics are huge. |
| luba - 3/5/09, 5:33 am |
| my ethics can beat up your ethics. |
| digger - 3/5/09, 5:38 am |
| luba - 9:33 am (65.96.221.139) my ethnics can beat up your ethnics. |
| adamh - 3/5/09, 5:42 am |
| my other ethics is a benz |
| kayla - 3/5/09, 10:54 am |
| wait. so did weedeater lose his job? is he getting in trouble for this? i hope not, he is a good dude and it would suck if he got in trouble over this. matty, give him a trillion high fives for me plz. |
| xdementia - 3/5/09, 10:56 am |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| Drana - 3/5/09, 11:01 am |
| Can someone create a summary of this thread, please? |
| RyanMcGinty - 3/5/09, 12:23 pm |
| there is a thread summary thread already somewhere |
| Mxyzptlk - 3/5/09, 12:26 pm |
| SUMMARY |
| steve_ca - 3/27/09, 5:13 pm |
| top |
| sebastian - 3/27/09, 5:21 pm |
| everyone in this thread is smart. |
| George - 4/15/09, 8:25 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| reply without loggin in ... or don't |