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| Eli - 12/5/08, 9:38 am |
| Totally nuts |
| depechechoad - 12/5/08, 9:40 am |
| thats pretty damn awesome. |
| villon - 12/5/08, 9:41 am |
| congrats sounds like a weird combination |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 9:41 am |
| Yeah its insane. No animal products on our rider anymore! |
| thedeathofsid - 12/5/08, 9:43 am |
| WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT ELI!?!!??!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!! |
| ryantheterrible - 12/5/08, 9:43 am |
| didn't she just do one like a year ago? |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 9:43 am |
| I am totally serious. We got offered the US, European and Australian tours with him but can only do the US right now, maybe the Europe |
| vom - 12/5/08, 9:44 am |
| YAAAAAAAAAAAH |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 9:44 am |
| I dont know Ryan, not sure |
| brothershell - 12/5/08, 9:45 am |
| Thanks for the weekly bragging post about yourself.. We love when you come here to praise yourself.. |
| asha - 12/5/08, 9:45 am |
| I opened this thread expecting to read the lyrics to Glycerine, but fortunately I was wrong! Congrats! |
| tintern - 12/5/08, 9:45 am |
| Whoa!!! Awesome news!!!! Congratz!! |
| tinobeat - 12/5/08, 9:46 am |
| That's awesome, Eli! Congratulations! |
| thedeathofsid - 12/5/08, 9:46 am |
| This is the type of thing that is totally worth bragging about, I think. If Moz asked me to open for him I'd probably get it tattooed on my forehead. |
| brokenfuses - 12/5/08, 9:46 am |
| Morrissey |
| breen - 12/5/08, 9:47 am |
| dry hump cover |
| ohuhm - 12/5/08, 9:48 am |
| yeah this is amazing!!! totally worthy of self praise! |
| yoni - 12/5/08, 9:48 am |
| wow. That is excellent. Just don't joke about him giving good head like the last opener he had in the US. |
| cripes - 12/5/08, 9:48 am |
| WHAT |
| katiekay - 12/5/08, 9:48 am |
| hilarious |
| adamh - 12/5/08, 9:49 am |
| DO NOT MAKE ANY REMARKS ABOUT HIS SEXINESS AROUND HIM!!!! |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 9:49 am |
| Yoni I definitely won't do that. I hope we can do the Europe tour as well. He's playing fucking Carnegie Hall in NY!! I get to play Carnegie hall! |
| AlexGStern - 12/5/08, 9:50 am |
| Damn girl. You have fulfilled my lifelong dream. |
| brandnewbike - 12/5/08, 9:50 am |
| We hate it when our friends become successful We hate it when our friends become successful Oh, look at those clothes Now look at that face, it's so old And such a video ! Well, it's really laughable Ha, ha, ha ... We hate it when our friends become successful And if they're northern, that makes it even worse And if we can destroy them You bet your life we will Destroy them If we can hurt them Well, we may as well ... It's really laughable Ha, ha, ha ... You see, it should've been me It could've been me Everybody knows Everybody says so They say : "ah, you have loads of songs So many songs Oh, songs - and they can stand Verse Chorus And middle eighth Break a fade Just listen ..." La, la-la, la-la Oh ... La la la la la la la la Thankyou, i love you. goodbye. no srlsy that rules plz send me a pic of jaff and the moz hanging out drinking coronas |
| BarXtheRockinM - 12/5/08, 9:50 am |
| yeah I'm thinking there's a point at which bragging is totally cool and wicked acceptable and this is definitely past that point. shit I've given Eli a hard time for talking about himself before but fuuuuck man, Morrissey? that's a big fucking deal. |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 9:51 am |
| Haha, I try not to brag about shit, really but I just thought this was fucking cool and that people on here would be psyched. Alex I think Danny is gonna tech for us |
| brothershell - 12/5/08, 9:52 am |
| Yeah maybe your right..But every post is guess what guys...I'm awesome |
| danger - 12/5/08, 9:52 am |
| Wow, cool! |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 9:52 am |
| Its true I really am awesome. undeniable I wish Jaffe still had his pompadour for this tour |
| FkrU - 12/5/08, 9:53 am |
| ha, i thought you meant you were buying a bunch of tickets! |
| brothershell - 12/5/08, 9:54 am |
| Sad part is there is no irony in your statement. |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 9:54 am |
| He's being really cool about it, giving us a really good guarantee, help with everything. Apparently he heard the record and really loved it |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 9:55 am |
| None at all, I am a narcissistic bastard, everybody who knows me knows that |
| exxsarahx - 12/5/08, 9:55 am |
| brothershell - 1:52 pm (155.212.63.166) Yeah maybe your right..But every post is guess what guys...I'm awesome thats not true. there was the one about the flowers and the receptionist or something like that |
| FkrU - 12/5/08, 9:55 am |
| can you eat hamburgers on tour? |
| tommyvon - 12/5/08, 9:55 am |
| wait, who is supporting morriseey? |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 9:56 am |
| His offer states no animal products at all in the backstage area so I think if we wanted any they'd have to be put on the bus immediately |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 9:56 am |
| My band, Eli "Paperboy" Reed & The True Loves |
| gabe - 12/5/08, 9:58 am |
| awesome! you decided to do it! haha, what are you going to eat? |
| brothershell - 12/5/08, 9:59 am |
| an ego sandwhich |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 10:00 am |
| Yeah Gabe they gave us the length we wanted, we're doing basically 5 weeks out of the 7 and a half. I'll hide some beef jerky in my guitar case |
| nip - 12/5/08, 10:00 am |
| i wonder if you can't wear leather backstage either... |
| streganona - 12/5/08, 10:00 am |
| wow, kickass! |
| tinobeat - 12/5/08, 10:00 am |
| you're almost there, brothershell! I think you're just *this* close to making him feel bad. keep trying! |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 10:00 am |
| Yeah I think no leather or fur |
| coweatman - 12/5/08, 10:00 am |
| we hate it when our friends become successful. |
| nip - 12/5/08, 10:01 am |
| that fur thing getting you down? |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 10:01 am |
| Brothershell isn't my friend, he just hates me for some reason |
| AlexGStern - 12/5/08, 10:01 am |
| I have had my difference with Eli , but his band's show would suck if he wasn't a boastful narcissist. |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 10:02 am |
| yeah man, I really like to wear a fur vest before I go on stage. |
| coweatman - 12/5/08, 10:02 am |
| eli, grow your pomp out huge before this tour. |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 10:02 am |
| haha thanks Alex. I'm gonna try to make it to the MH reunion, its a bummer that Kessler isn't doing it, it'll be really fun anyway |
| AlexGStern - 12/5/08, 10:03 am |
| Did you just thank me for a backhanded compliment? We have come a long way baby |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 10:05 am |
| Eh I can't hold old grudges anymore, for the most part we've been friends and I've known you for a long time |
| rachel - 12/5/08, 10:06 am |
| holy shit, amazing! GOOD JOB!!! |
| BarXtheRockinM - 12/5/08, 10:07 am |
| I used to get annoyed by Eli but I really think he's toned down the bragging. At the very least, it's gone from "Hey we're headlining the Middle East downstairs!" to "Hey we're gonna be playing in front of 5000 people at arenas in Europe and shit like that!" I think that this is incredibly awesome and I'm very psyched for you. |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 10:08 am |
| Thanks man, yeah I've never intended to be bragging or a dick about it but I feel like you kinda gotta believe 100% in what you're doing otherwise nobody else will. Mostly I've just tried to keep working hard at all this, it's blowing my mind that it's actually working out. |
| steve g - 12/5/08, 10:08 am |
| definitely a weird bill, but congratulations. how do you think you'll fit in with his crowd? how exactly do you classify your stuff, anyway? ive heard you hate the term "throwback." |
| beenwiser - 12/5/08, 10:09 am |
| historic event ^ =P srsly tho, this is all good stuff. |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 10:09 am |
| I don't really like the term throwback because I'm writing all my own music and arrangements and we don't try to play the music so it sounds old hat. I guess I'd just call it Soul music. I think people will really like it. I mean it can't be any weirder than when we supported Say Anything for a month |
| villon - 12/5/08, 10:10 am |
| how exactly did that say anything thing turn out? curious. |
| norstroms - 12/5/08, 10:10 am |
| yoni - 1:48 pm (72.227.162.88) wow. That is excellent. Just don't joke about him giving good head like the last opener he had in the US. dammit yoni you beat me to it. yeah, Kristeen Young was joking about a photoshoot the two of them had together while she was the opener and he booted her that night. she'd been on tour with him all over the world for almost two years or something insane like that. he even put out one of her singles. and then one night in NYC after this weird photoshoot she said something about how it looked like he was giving her head in one of the pics and he kicked her off the tour immediately. good luck! have fun! don't say anything onstage at all especially not in the middle of the desert in Australia. |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 10:12 am |
| The Say Anything tour was AWESOME! Their fans were so psyched to be at a show and they were all
pressed up to the front even when we were on (2nd of four). They were just up for a good time. I will definitely keep my comments to myself so don't worry about that |
| obleo - 12/5/08, 10:14 am |
| thats awesome |
| steve g - 12/5/08, 10:16 am |
| i definitely see what you're saying. its just a strange thing because soul music is so clearly
connected to a certain time period that even if new music is created in the same genre, its
impossible not to be reminded of then and feel a relationship there. for instance, if i wrote a
completely original ragtime thing, its almost automatically throwback. so how do you feel his type of crowd is going to react to modern soul? |
| Brohamster - 12/5/08, 10:16 am |
| Most of Morrisseys US tour openers have been really lousy. This actually makes way more sense even though it isn't a 100% fit, but then again who really sounds like Morrisseys live show? |
| brandnewbike - 12/5/08, 10:17 am |
| i srlsly tried to go to the say anything, hellogoodbye, eli show at keane state still bummed |
| beenwiser - 12/5/08, 10:18 am |
| i just went and listened to 'say anything' and god that is yucky. how did you deal with having to listen to that every night? |
| BarXtheRockinM - 12/5/08, 10:18 am |
| "I feel like you kinda gotta believe 100% in what you're doing otherwise nobody else
will." totally. if you don't think that what you're doing is awesome, then why bother getting on a stage and doing it in front of people? |
| ManxomeFoe - 12/5/08, 10:29 am |
| wow. awesome, Eli! |
| chrislop - 12/5/08, 10:29 am |
| congrats eli! you were always nice enough to me when i would come out of alpha omega and say hi in harvard square. i think you deserve what you get. |
| Brohamster - 12/5/08, 10:31 am |
| RESPONSE TO xSampax from PARRIS Sampax, Sorry for the bad news but it real and it does suck. About Alpha Omega. The situation that is happening now between Harley and myself is almost history repeating it self from the early nineties. In 1990, after supporting the Best Wishes CD on tour Harley and I had cleaned house of all the problem band members, be it for drugs or obsolescence and we had a new guitar player, Rob Buckley. Who wrote most of the Alpha Omega CD by the way. Rob and I spent a year writing Alpha Omega while Harley sold Pot in Central Park. It was all very productive and positive time even though Harley wasn't involved or maybe because he wasn't involved. We had a new band and a clean outlook at the future. After we had written Alpha Omega we were inspired. I fired Chris Williamson our manager and hired a big time shark lawyer to get us a new deal and then we took the new songs on the road. Well, once all the work was done and we had all invested time and emotion in the CD Harley did another of his bullshit ego explosions and was jealous that Rob and I had written almost the entire CD without him. All except the lyrics of course. He decided that we should not credit Rob for his music because "the fans wouldn't like it if they knew he wrote it" so Harley suggested that we credit the CD as all songs by the Cro-Mags. Which I didn't like but I agreed to for the sake of peace. Moreover to just diplomatically keep the momentum of the band going. That was lame but not as lame as how he began acting towards everyone, just a total asshole. First, we demoed the songs. Then Harley went around playing the tapes to everyone on the New York scene and saying "listen to these new songs I wrote." Then people would come up to me and say "I heard those new demos of Harley's new songs, they're great" That kind of thing is just fucked up and to me unfathomable but at this point Harley was irrationally self centered to the point of lying outright. Harley was carrying around a notebook with pages and pages of scribbled drawings that he said could show the placement in the universe of all the major important incarnations of God, he pointed out Krishna, Jesus, and himself as he played his role in the divine way of the universe. At this point Harley and I were communicating between us, but he had completely disassociated himself from the rest of the band. Which was par for the course, I had spent the better part of the bands history trying to keep members from quitting because of Harley, a job I would carry out till 2001. Both Dave and Rob complained but Rob received the brunt of the problem, being constantly criticized and razzed by Harley. Harley always picks one person to pick on, last tour it was Pete Hines, before that it was Doug Holland and now it was Rob. I tried to convince him he was pushing Dave and Rob away and this was a bad time to alienate the band. For the good of the band he should tone it down. He agreed but it didn't stop his actual behavior, it got worse. We then took the new songs on tour for two weeks to test them on the fans. It was great, the fans ate it up and we were having the time of our lives. Harley the first night decided we would not perform certain new songs that we had all worked on rehearsing, just one small link in a chain of non-cooperation, he simply refused. Rob, Dave Dicenso and I were playing and partying every night. It was really the first time a tour had been so much fun, despite Harley. We were all having fun except Harley of course, who disregarded our invitations and he was on a mission to make everyone else as miserable as he was. One night we were all partying in our hotel room having a great time after the gig, even Harley's girlfriend Rachael and Harley's Hare Krishna buddies had had enough of him and had joined us. Harley called hotel security on us to stop the party. The next day we were in DC, we played the 930 club, it was great, some friends from New York flew down to see us including Michael Alago an A+R man who signed METALLICA and WHITE ZOMBIE, he was interested in buying our contract for GEFFEN. They had offered $250,000 to Profile. After the 930 gig Harley was being such a baby killjoy that we, myself, Dave, Rob, our friends from New York and even Harley's girlfriend Rachael piled into the T-shirt van to drive back to New York, leaving Harley alone on the tour bus. We all preferred being cramped in a van than being on a luxury tour bus with him another moment. It was a fun ride. When we arrived at L'amour in Brooklyn and it was a sunny day so we took out a box radio and began blasting music. It was the Beastie Boys "License to ILL" and the infectious nature of that CD had everyone singing along. There were some kids who had shown up early to the show and they joined in. In the thick of the fun, the tour bus pulled up. Before the bus had come to a stop Harley was pounding on the door of the bus, then the door opened and Harley jumped out and looked around at all of us with complete contempt. We all had smiles on our faces and were rocking along, but that came to a complete stop. He walked up to the box radio and said "who put on this fucking Jew music?" and turned it off with the blade of his fist hammering down on the controls. I stepped forward and said " I did, why can't you let people enjoy themselves, we all don't have to be miserable like you" then I turned the music back on. Harley, face as red as a tomato in a rage, screamed at me "And you're an asshole too!!" and stormed down to the dressing room and smashed all the mirrors and locked the door. That was the definitive moment of the band when Harley and I had finally butted heads. I knew it was over at that moment. How unreasonable can someone be, but Harley has always felt the need to prove how important he is to the band by behaving like as much of an asshole as he can to show everyone else that they HAD to put up with it. He was wrong, I didn't have to any more. Harley told our tour manager he "would not perform tonight or tomorrow" the last night of the tour. Our tour manager said in a panic " Parris you have to talk to him, he's got to play, what are we gonna do?" I said "I'm done catering to that baby, I'm going into the city, I don't care if we play or not but I'll tell you now. He'll play, he just wants you to beg, or me to beg, then he'll feel he has the upper hand. He does this to have a little show of control, like a little kid. You won't play with me, then I'll take my toys home" Rob and I walked off and discussed starting a new band with all the new songs we had written. It was set in motion. But I was still not convinced, I wanted it to work out as I always tried to make it work out whenever Harley created some kind of problem, but this time Harley had seen fit to ignore all convention of decency and respect. Needless to say we performed that night and it was strained. I can honestly say that, that was Biohazard's show hands down, we just weren't on point. The show was miserable actually and when it was over I walked downstairs and locked myself in a small dressing room to be by myself. A few minutes later I heard screaming and things breaking as Harley destroyed the dressing room, until finally he was pulling on the door of the room I was in, he finally kicked the door repeatedly until it smashed open with splinters of the doorframe flying. He walked in and sat down on the bench next to me and didn't say a word. I waited a minute or two, stood up and walked out. We also performed the next night in Pennsylvania. That show was intense but I knew it was the last Cro-Mags show. I wasn't sad, I felt liberated, after years of struggling with irrational, vain, baby shit, egomania and insecurity. "No Harley you are great, really" so he wouldn't throw a tantrum, was getting tired and so was I. A few weeks after the tour I found out that Profile records had no intention of selling our contract. I guess when they saw Geffen sniffing around they thought twice. That along with Harley's public lies had synched it for me, I wasn't going to deliver another CD to those bloodsucking Profile records assholes, EVER! Harley had been telling everyone who walked and talked that he had written all the new songs and that was pissing me off, considering I had called him every day when we were writing the music to get him involved but he was too busy dealing drugs to participate. He also condescendingly said "don't you guys get all involved in writing songs we won't end up using, I have a whole album written already and it will break new ground in Rock music" needless to say he had nothing written and all my and Rob's songs were all there were. Except "Apocalypse Now" which had been written just after we recorded BEST WISHES. Harley did write that. Harley had been calling me for a few weeks. I avoided him, then finally I saw him at a bar called KING TUT's WAH WAH HUT and told Harley I was out and Rob was coming with me. Harley began to cry. He said "I can't believe you are going to leave me, I can't believe it." I said "Harley I never wanted to quit the Cro-Mags but you pushed me away" He immediately said " So you will stay and we'll get rid of that asshole Rob." I said no, I gave you every opportunity and I warned you, now it is too late" He said " will you do me a favor?" "What?" "Don't tell anyone you quit just yet, because this is a big blow to me and I will be embarrassed to have people know I was such an asshole that Parris had had enough. As a friend, please do me this favor." I said "ok, and you can have the name Cro-Mags I don't care. I decided to leave so if you want, you can go with it" He said "No, I won't, I'm not going to drag the name around like Lemmy does with Motorhead" and I walked away, thinking how dare you diss Lemmy with a statement like that, don't you ever learn to shut the fuck up? When Profile found out that I had quit they said "well if Parris isn't involved then the working half of the group that is functional is lost and the rest is not worth dealing with. We'll release Cro-Mags free of charge. Under one condition. That Parris and Harley don't ever reform as Cro-Mags." Profile was offered $250,000 to buy us as a team and gave us away free when I walked. That says something about the way this band worked. So, after all was said and done, a year of buyout offers, writing an entire album of music, firing our incompetent manager and getting the band set up for success Harley ruins it all with his behavior drives me out and is rewarded with the Cro-Mags name free and clear of the record label that had stonewalled our career. If karma is real, I have seen no evidence of it. About two weeks later Zowie from Leeway came up to me and said "Parris, wow, I'm sorry to hear about you getting kicked out of the Cro-Mags." I said "what are you talking about? I quit and now there is no Cro-Mags?" He said "Harley told me he kicked you out and he is making a record." Foiled again I thought, but no one believed it and I didn't care anyway, I was free and I had already met with an A+R person at Atlantic that wanted to sign me and Rob. Harley then got a record deal with Century Media using the demo of the songs Rob and I wrote most of, called John Joseph and Doug to make it look more like the Cro-Mags and recorded Alpha Omega. The songs Rob and I wrote were stolen and we were uncredited. The liner notes read "ALL SONGS BY HARLEY FLANAGAN AND THE CRO-MAGS." Not a lie, but not the truth, a tactic Harley employs relentlessly. Deceit by omission. It sucked, a year of songwriting lost, stolen by my friend. The friend who asked me for one last favor, "Just don't tell anyone", because it would embarrass him. Actually so he could tell his own more personally flattering story, typical. Because with Harley you are with him or he is against you, there is no middle ground. I had become his enemy by not putting up with his crap anymore and he did everything from that moment on to cause me trouble and he began a campaign to erase my role in the history of the band, with the help of John Joseph who was happy to completely disregard the historical facts and cast himself in the co-founding role in my place. Harley's treachery turned against him when his new band members mutinied against him and toured to support Alpha Omega without him. It is a twisted little chapter of Cro-Mags history and is followed by Harley's failure driving him to drug addiction, infighting and betrayal by Harley's new Cro-Mags and ultimately the ugly public demise of the band, but that is another story. These details may shed some light on why and what I feel about the Alpha Omega CD. It symbolizes a very ugly time and ultimately Alpha Omega is truly NOT a Cro-Mags CD, it is a mistake of circumstance. That is why it is not in our discography. If you enjoy it, that's cool, to you it is just a CD in your collection. To me it is a year of my life stolen and the end of my band. Unfortunately this kind of thing is repeated all through out our history. It amazes me to even recall it because it is so fucked up and unbelievable. What is more unbelievable is that it is happening again, in the same way as if time hadn't passed. First Harley is an unbearable ass, I kick Harley to the curb again, he runs back to John again. Now there is only to wait to see them turn on each other again. When Harley and I got back together to play again we never discussed the Alpha Omega CD. We simply sidestepped the issue as we did allot of Harley's past transgressions, embracing the rational that we are adults now and hindsight is 20/20 etc, etc, blah, blah, denial, except when we were to tour, he asked if we could play some songs from Alpha Omega. I said flatly "NO" and I didn't need to discuss it, it was self-explanatory. We never discussed it again. Parris |
| tommyvon - 12/5/08, 10:33 am |
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| Ian - 12/5/08, 10:55 am |
| if you can like steal a shirt or lock of hair or drop of sweat i will reward you handsomely this rules |
| RonMexico - 12/5/08, 11:09 am |
| Uh this is AWESOME! Congrats! |
| RonMexico - 12/5/08, 11:10 am |
| Also, is there a Boston date? |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 2:09 pm |
| No Boston date unfortunately, what the hell was that super long thing that was just posted? |
| danshea - 12/5/08, 2:11 pm |
| this is fucking awesome. |
| Vanya - 12/5/08, 2:12 pm |
| head asplode. |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 2:16 pm |
| Seriously Brohamster what the hell was that? It is weird that he's not playing Boston, he's actually playing at Foxwoods instead.....There's 3 dates in NY, Webster Hall, The Bowery and CARNEGIE HALL |
| thedeathofsid - 12/5/08, 2:22 pm |
| Eli - 1:52 pm (81.138.2.71) I wish Jaffe still had his pompadour for this tour GOD YES. Also prediction: Eli and Morrisey become BFFs and get matching tattoos. |
| Eli - 12/5/08, 2:22 pm |
| OOF |
| brokenfuses - 12/5/08, 2:26 pm |
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| ryanspraker213 - 12/5/08, 3:44 pm |
| for the record, ben should NEVER have another pompadore. he's sitting right behind me and agrees 100% this will be fun, even though i've never personally been a fan |
| ryanspraker213 - 12/5/08, 3:45 pm |
| breen - 1:47 pm (24.61.208.36) dry hump cover i'll make sure we squeeze one in matt! |
| sickened - 12/5/08, 3:55 pm |
| call him the mozzer. |
| Ronmexico - 12/5/08, 4:54 pm |
| If I were ever in a band that got to play Carnegie Hall...Well I'd be pretty fucking stoked. |
| heyradio - 12/5/08, 4:55 pm |
| Hi put me on some list so I can go backstage and un-asexualize him. |
| hashshashin - 12/5/08, 4:58 pm |
| OMG I'm so excited for you guys!!! I'll be @ a couple of the shows, probably. |
| Eli - 12/12/08, 10:30 pm |
| This isn't happening....Morrisey came to our show in London and said that we weren't right for his tour. Apparently on his last tour he kicked off the opening band after the first show so at least that didn't happen. I'm pretty bummed |
| mattm - 12/12/08, 10:31 pm |
| ugh. dude. sorry man, i was wicked psyched for you. |
| Eli - 12/12/08, 10:32 pm |
| Yeah its allright, now at least we can do all the other stuff we couldn't do because of how long the tour was. Just played for 1300 people headlining in Madrid last night so at least I've got that going for me. I really just wanted to play Carnegie hall |
| Eli - 12/12/08, 10:38 pm |
| At least he came out to the show..I just wish they hadn't confirmed beforehand |
| evanparker - 12/12/08, 10:41 pm |
| how did you get on the thing in the first place then? did he even listen to the band? |
| evanparker - 12/12/08, 10:43 pm |
| look on the bright side, maybe you can do that mass hysteria thing afterall. |
| planncomm - 12/12/08, 11:15 pm |
| morrissey dosen't care about white people trying to be old black people |
| heyradio - 12/12/08, 11:53 pm |
| I am not really shocked. Morrissey = diva. |
| mlo - 12/13/08, 12:25 am |
| that is so shitty. Morrissey is such a fucking prima donna. READ THIS. |
| heyradio - 12/13/08, 12:28 am |
| mike answer my pm |
| mlo - 12/13/08, 12:29 am |
| already done. dont derail this! |
| gabe - 12/13/08, 12:47 am |
| probably just didn't want you guys upstaging him |
| gabe - 12/13/08, 12:48 am |
| and that is a fucking bummer, but hey, fuck a moz |
| mlo - 12/13/08, 1:43 am |
| “It’s nothing to do with you, really. It could have been the shirt you were wearing, your haircut, anything. Please don’t take it personally. This happens.” |
| chrissie - 12/13/08, 1:52 am |
| oh dude, this sucks. sorry. |
| chrissie - 12/13/08, 1:53 am |
| honestly, he is acting like axl rose about shit. |
| heyradio - 12/13/08, 2:41 am |
| maybe moz saw someone in your band eating meat. seriously. its that simple. he is crazy. |
| alexgstern - 12/13/08, 4:31 am |
| Almost all of Morrissey's tour support acts that I have seen have either been bad, boring, or just plain not ready for a theater size stage. Take it as a compliment to be denied entry to their ranks. |
| detuned - 12/17/08, 4:58 pm |
| Morrissey - 2009 Tour Dates 2/28 Boca Raton, FL Mizner Park 3/1 Orlando, FL Hard Rock live 3/3 Jacksonville, FL Florida Theater 3/4 St. Petersburg, FL Jannus Landing 3/6 Myrtle Beach. SC House of Blues 3/7 Atlanta, GA Variety Playhouse 3/9 Asheville, NC Orange Peel 3/11 Durham, NC Durham Performing Arts Center 3/13 Richmond, VA The National 3/14 Washington, DC Warner Theater 3/16 Montclair, NJ Wellmont Theater 3/17 Pittsburgh, PA Carnegie Music Hall 3/19 Buffalo, NY University of Buffalo Center for the Arts 3/21 New York, NY Bowery Ballroom 3/22 Philadelphia, PA Acadmy of Music 3/25 New York, NY Webster Hall 3/26 New York, NY Carnegie Hall 3/28 Mashantucket, CT Foxwoods 3/29 Boston, MA House of Blues 3/31 Ann Arbor, MI Michigan Theater 4/1 Columbus, OH Palace Theater 4/3 Milwaukee, WI Eagles Ballroom 4/4 Chicago, IL Aragon Ballroom 4/6 Minneapolis, MN State Theater 4/7 Kansas City, MO Midland Theater 4/8 St. Louis, MO Pageant Theater 4/10 Dallas, TX Palladium Ballroom 4/11 Houston, TX Jesse H. Jones Hall 4/12 Austin, TX Bass Concert Hall 4/14 El Paso, TX Chavez Theater 4/15 Albuquerque, NM Sunshine Theater |
| tigerdriver - 12/17/08, 5:04 pm |
| when i saw him last time, the opening act was this goth chick that reminded me of wzbc circa 1989. i don't know how she got that gig. |
| BarXtheRockinM - 12/17/08, 5:37 pm |
| Amanda Palmer? |
| brokenfuses - 12/17/08, 5:43 pm |
| I was going to top this daying "Oh hey they're playing at the House of Blues" but I figured it'd sort of be a downer considering the way the thread went |
| Ian - 12/17/08, 6:02 pm |
| he's playing some really small places, sheesh. bowery ballroom and the orange peel? |
| tinobeat - 12/17/08, 6:04 pm |
| oh man, sorry Eli, that's a real bummer. |
| tigerdriver - 12/17/08, 6:38 pm |
| BarXtheRockinM - 9:37 pm (24.91.216.107) Amanda Palmer? let's put it this way, i WISH it was amanda palmer. |
| anru - 12/17/08, 7:44 pm |
| hey eli that does suck but just the fact that just happened is really cool, hey makes for a great story right, and the rate your going you'll be eventually be at Carnegie hall |
| detuned - 12/17/08, 8:19 pm |
| kristeen young? |
| mlo - 12/17/08, 9:56 pm |
| kristeen young does share many similarities with amanda palmer.. but i really enjoyed kristeen young when i saw her play with ted leo last year. managed to miss her set for the sake of pre-gaming at "both" boston Morrissey shows last time he came around but she was good when i saw her 6 months later. |
| mlo - 12/17/08, 10:01 pm |
| and if anyone didn't click on my link, this is relevant and hilarious to the point of axl rose-like
bullshit. definitely worth reading, may cheer you up Eli: From The Times January 25, 2008 I was Morrissey's roadie It looked like the gig of a lifetime for a Morrissey fan, touring America with the man they call Moz. But our writer lasted barely a day – and still doesn’t know what went wrong Andrew Winters The initial phone call came out of the blue. I had recently stretched my CV in the music business to include tour management and just returned from driving two English bands round the US; just me, both bands and their equipment, all squeezed inside a van, enacting a road-trip scenario that in filmic terms might have been viewed as a strange meeting of Little Miss Sunshine and About Schmidt. Here was a new job offer, the gist being “How would you like to be Morrissey’s valet for two months across America?”. The official job title was assistant road manager. Without hesitation the reply was: “Yes, please. I’ll have some of that.” Over the next couple of days the initial approach was followed by an e-mail question and answer dialogue. Alongside the usual questions such as who had I been tour-managing recently and how much I might be expecting to earn, were: Smoking or not? Married? Was I a vegetarian and/or would I be willing to be one for the duration of the tour. Lastly, would I e-mail a picture of myself? The latter caused a lot of deliberation. Should it be a mugshot, or me in my swimming togs, perhaps? In the end I opted for a picture in which I was reclining on a sofa with my fiancée’s cat in my lap. As it happens, the first time that I ever travelled to America – in 1991 – was to go as a VIP guest to Morrissey’s solo New York debut. He sold out Madison Square Gardens, 20,000 tickets in record time (the record had been held by U2). I still had my VIP pass; I considered scanning it and sending it, to prove that I am a bona fide fan. Luckily I didn’t, as I subsequently learnt that anyone resembling an overenthusiastic admirer of the man or his music was immediately vetoed. Better also keep quiet, then, the fact that I was present at the first concert that the Smiths played outside of Manchester, at the Rock Garden in London in 1983; that I danced like a demon to What Difference Does it Make at a GLC “Jobs for Change” concert at the Jubilee Gardens in London the following year, and that I had been present, feeling uncomfortable, as Morrissey performed swathed in a Union Jack at Finsbury Park in London in 1992. And again ten years later as he reestablished himself, supported by the Libertines, at Brixton Academy, previewing the phenomenal comeback album You are the Quarry. Now it’s a week later and I’ve just got off a train and am having a pint of beer in a pub in Suffolk. It’s my “interview” and Morrissey’s road manager is sizing me up. In fact, as much as anything, he informs me, it’s to check out how I comport myself, my choice of clothes and general demeanour. Apparently if I was to be sporting anything resembling archetypal road crew apparel, such as turning up with a baseball cap reversed on my head or a cap-sleeve T-shirt emblazoned with the words “Saxon – World Tour 1987” then I’d be on the first train home. I am told that if I am accepted, then it will be the most unusual gig I will ever experience. I will get to know the protocols of working with Morrissey but the one overriding rule is the vegetarian one. No burgers from room service, no ham on salads, I get the sense if I am caught even visibly acknowledging the existence of a McDonald’s - instant sacking. I politely ask what the view is on fish. Seafood is sea life, I am informed, the same rule applies. I get home, not quite sure why or how that was an interview or what the outcome would be. I check my e-mails and there it is: “Welcome to the tour.” For a moment I am stunned. In a week I will be flying out to LA to join the tour. Result! The next day I get an outline of what some of my duties will be. The touring party is divided into three sections – Morrissey A, which includes him, the road manager, his PA and personal security; Morrissey B – the musicians, and C – the road crew, technicians and support staff. I am to be responsible for the B unit and linking up to take care of Morrissey and the band onstage during show days. I am responsible for getting the musicians to the venue intact and on time. The production carries “sound-check suits”. I am informed that the band are considered “ambassadors” of the Morrissey tour and are therefore expected to be dressed in these suits for all soundchecks, all collective flights, all dinners and functions that may possibly include Morrissey – and it’s my responsibility to make sure that they are wearing them. I am also responsible for the upkeep of the suits, their dry cleaning and steam-pressing before each show. I must iron shirts and clean shoes. I am to be valet and wardrobe mistress and possibly barber as well, although I learn later that a new hairdresser is flying in from Dublin to join Morrissey for this tour. The various eating habits of each band member, who eats what and when, is explained, as is the how and when to take food orders . . . all from vegetarian menus, of course. During the soundcheck I am to “fragrance spray” between the front row and front of house and am informed that Morrissey’s PA will provide me with the fragrance of the day “if required”. I make a mental note to discover what fragrance spray is – unless it is a common brand of male underarm deodorant you can be sure I won’t have it. And here’s one I like: set up record player and 45s in the band’s dressing room. Make another mental note to take a small selection of my own vinyl collection to impress Morrissey and the boys when we’re under way. An hour before stage time I am to wake any of the band members who might be sleeping, collect a trumpet and collect a cup of tea and, um . . . facial water spray for Morrissey onstage and make sure it is positioned within easy access for him. I must ensure that the band is fully dressed for the show at least 15 minutes before stage time, ready for Morrissey to enter the band dressing room five to ten minutes before the show. I must ensure that a clean chair is placed near the door for his preliminaries with the band and advised that for these moments I should make myself scarce . . . A few days to go and I receive details of my flight. I am flying to the US on September 11, 2007 – nice to get a memorable date. On the flight an attendant announces: “Vegan meal for seat 83c.” I realise that this is me, preordered vegetarian meals are standard on all flights of a Morrissey tour. I try to explain that I am only a temporary vegetarian for the purposes of work and that perhaps vegan is a jump too far too early. “No sir, this is all we have.” I arrive in LA with the excitement and expectation overriding the jet lag. I come to the hotel and am impressed by the suite that I have been allocated all to myself. I get a bit hungry and look at room service. I decline the parma ham and decide on mushroom and tomato pizza as part of my new vegetarian regimen. I then spend the next few hours sleeping, dozing, dreaming of aircraft crashing into buildings until finally, at 7am, the phone rings. It’s one of the band. He has to sort out some business affairs and asks if I would like to accompany him. I am here to serve, so naturally say “yes”. Anyway, it’ll give me an opportunity to get to know at least one member of the band. We get on fine. Then I am asked: “What was the first record you ever bought? Moz asks everyone that, I’m told. What would your answer be?” Being involved in music I have often been asked this question and my policy recently has been honesty. It wasn’t the Velvet Underground, Sex Pistols or the Jesus and Mary Chain, it was Rocket Man, by Elton John. “F*** me, Andrew,” he says. “Don’t tell Moz that, you’ll be right out the door. T. Rex is always good.” It’s not long before I make another apparent faux pas. We are listening to Indie 103, one of the best alternative rock radio shows in LA. I am asked if I have heard the station’s show by the Sex Pistol Steve Jones. I say I have but also like to listen to Henry Rollins, whose Harmony in my Head show is on the same station. This is met with a frown and then silence. I wonder if I have said something else wrong, then forget it. It’s the afternoon. We’re at the rehearsal rooms in downtown LA and the full force of Girlfriend in a Coma can be heard, just one of a whole new bunch of Smiths and Morrissey solo material that the band is adding to its repertoire. I’m doing my part; the carrots are cut, the cucumber chopped, the celery stacked and dips and fresh bread easily accessible. Morrissey is not p r e s e n t , though, and the guitarist is filling in on vocal guides. I am really excited about the whole prospect of this adventure. Then, at about 5.30pm there is the bleep of simultaneous texts arriving and the band drop instruments and set about a bit of grooming. We have been summoned to the pub, a well-known Morrissey hang-out. I arrive with the band and crew. We have tables reserved in the beer garden. “Be careful, Andrew,” someone warns me. “Moz hates people who are boring . . . but then, he also hates people being too pushy around him. Establishing common ground quickly is important.” An hour later and the A team arrives – Morrissey, his PA, the road manager and security team. This is something of a reunion as Morrissey, the band and crew haven’t been together for a few weeks, so there is a lot of rebonding going on. It is at this point that Morrissey and I have our only line of dialogue – Moz asks his bandmate how his day has been. He replies a bit boring because a lot of it was spent sorting out some business and adds: “But it was good to have Andrew around as company.” Morrissey looks at me with what seems like a slight smirk and shakes my hand. “Don’t worry, Andrew, it can only get better than this,” he says – and then proceeds to grab his guitarist and rub his fingers through his hair. All this time I am weighing up quite how not to be boring but to impose myself on the situation. I admit I do give up slightly and just decide to be normal with the band and Moz’s PA and to get to know people. While this is going on everyone is drinking. Morrissey instructs his PA to order him a large vodka concoction. Then something bizarre happens. A drinking game ensues, where one of the musicians is encouraged to knock back his pint to a chorus of “Down in one, down in one, down in one,” a chant to which Morrissey himself adds flamenco claps, skipping in front of his employee. He immediately beckons for another pint for the same musician and the process is repeated. It’s hard to believe I've been in LA barely 24 hours. The jet lag is kicking in a bit. The next move of the evening is to be a change of location. But it’s hard to work out who has been invited and who hasn’t. Am I? I’ll probably never know. One of the band who I have been asked to keep an eye on can’t decide whether to go on to the new venue or go to the hotel. He, like me, has just flown from the UK so is a bit jet-lagged as well. He suggests going back to the hotel –and that is what we do. The next day is the second day of rehearsal. I wake up early and am greeted by a text from the road manager: “Please chck ur e-mail.” And there it is – “Morning, Andrew, I’m sorry to say I have been instructed to arrange travel back to the UK for you today. Your flight details are below.” That’s it. I’m out. I sit there in shock. What did I do? I speak to the road manager who says: “It’s nothing to do with you, really. It could have been the shirt you were wearing, your haircut, anything. Please don’t take it personally. This happens.” The car is waiting to take me to the airport. I am pondering where I went wrong, how I could have done things differently. Did details of my first record purchase slip back to Morrissey? If so, my subsequent searches on the net might give me a clue to my summary dismissal. Type in “Morrissey” and “Elton John” and you get a speech that Morrissey dishes out when he performs the song The World is Full of Crashing Bores along the lines of “bring me the head of Elton John”. Not a fan, then – but not even a bit of leeway or identification with the song Rocket Man, in which John uses the song as a metaphor to depict a lonely star who only feels at home and in control onstage. Paranoia’s slipping into my research now. Perhaps I shouldn’t have professed to liking Henry Rollins’s radio show. Type “Morrissey” and “Henry Rollins” into Google and you come across a story that Morrisseyonce attended one of Rollins’s gigs and sat in the audience shouting “F*** you” at Henry. It sounds like internet tittle tattle but, in any case, perhaps it would have gone down better if I’d said that I liked Tony Blackburn. We’re sitting on the runway at LAX. I’ve just sent a final text to Morrissey’s PA to see if she can throw any light on things. It all happened so fast we hadn’t even had time to talk contracts. Her reply drops in my inbox. “Well, I’m none the wiser! Safe journey home and good luck.” We’re in the air and I hear an air hostess looking for seat 24b. It’s the same woman as before. “Vegan meal, sir?” “Not me” I reply. “Bring me the beef.” |
| barker - 12/17/08, 10:01 pm |
| eli, that's fucking great. you are very talented and i am very proud of you. |
| mlo - 12/17/08, 10:06 pm |
| barker, re-read eli's last response... |
| barker - 12/17/08, 10:18 pm |
| the thread was too long. but still eli, you are very talented and i am very proud of you. |
| gabe - 12/18/08, 2:14 am |
| hahahaha, oh my god the band supporting him in england is so terrible |
| gabe - 12/18/08, 2:14 am |
| or, all of europe I guess |
| paintedbird - 12/18/08, 4:43 am |
| don't stare at the birthmark on his forehead. his makeup artist generally does a good job covering
it up, but i heard if you're close enough its noticeable. so yeah, don't do that. |
| Dirigo - 12/18/08, 7:05 am |
| you are better off, imagine having to tiptoe around this self-important wanker to try and stay on the tour. |
| paintedbird - 12/18/08, 7:16 am |
| missed the bummer post. |
| steve g - 12/18/08, 10:35 am |
| i was walking around the city today and i was thinking how impossible it would have been to deal with someone like that for one day, let alone two months. |
| RIDETHESNAKE - 12/18/08, 10:36 am |
| MAYBE IF YOU SPELLED HIS NAME RIGHT HE WOULD'VE LIKED YOU BETTER |
| tommyvon - 12/18/08, 11:13 am |
| interesting.. the House of Blues in boston? they think they'll be finished by then? |
| detuned - 12/18/08, 11:20 am |
| there are a ton of shows booked for februrary, so id imagine so |
| brothershell - 12/18/08, 12:10 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW Eli's face on the baby would be a great visual... |
| warrantchief - 12/18/08, 12:13 pm |
| IMAGE REMOVED - CLICK TO VIEW |
| EatShitKids - 12/18/08, 1:02 pm |
| don't sweat it. I thought it would be awesome to see him in San Diego. The show was $60 and was over in an hour. He blew. It was terrible. |
| yoni - 12/18/08, 1:31 pm |
| easy come easy go! Eli, I won't lie to you: I would love to be in your shoes opening for Morrisey or not. I would love to be able to make a living off of playing music. If you are kicking around Park Slope then we should go get a drink sometime. My fiancee lives there and I am around often. |
| CommodoreVic - 12/19/08, 12:24 pm |
| Start rolling your 'rrrr's. |
| the.rog - 12/19/08, 12:28 pm |
| Andrew ellis does it again!!! |
| garciems - 12/20/08, 10:56 am |
| man, that sucks Eli. I'm sure Moz thinks that he, both in The Smiths and his solo career, has created his own unique singing style and persona, as well as a musically unique and influential sound, as well as unique songwriting in terms of lyrics et cetera and so as far as HE, in his infinite wisdom sees it that YOU are comparatively a hack who basically makes a carbon copy of music from a bygone era and tries to resell it without adding anything at all original or unique. of course he could not be more wrong. what a douche. Plus, I think one way to tell that you've achieved success is when some people care enough to hate what you do. fuck the haters. score one for you. |
| eli - 12/20/08, 11:30 am |
| I can't help but wonder if this is an unbelievably sarcastic post. Maybe it is. I'm sure a lot of people think that about Morrissey and not alot of people think that about me. He's been making records for a long time, I just put out my first about 8 months ago. Anyway, like I said, it's a bummer because I think we would have gotten along and it would have been great opportunity for my band but now it gives us the time to do the other things we had to put off to do this tour. Now I will leave this thread alone |
| Wes - 12/11/09, 5:54 pm |
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